Philosoft

Sorry to hear that. I know it's much easier being a small lesbian.

dk

Recreational and/or promiscuous sex of any kind leads to unwed mothers, STIs, PIDs, sterility, abandoned children, broken families, amputated families, divorce, and a host of problems in public education. The cost to the entire society and the family unit can't be estimated. Many people think the integrity of the media, judicial and educational systems are impugned by backing gays, especially when engineered to bypass democratic processes. It’s inevitable that the Federal Courts will sooner or later be dominated by conservative judges. The ensuing social conflict will likely tear the whole country apart, and that’s exactly what happened in the Dred Scot, and Plessy (separate but equal). To be quite frank the gay community has got an awful public image. The incidence rate of HIV infection amongst young gay men is truly alarming. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see a rift open up between lesbians, blacks and gays. Even worse there's little evidence the courts have a remedy for what ails the gay community.

Philosoft

This is all arguable, but it's also beside the point. I'm talking only about the "institution of marriage." What's best for society is another matter. I'd like to know what kind of damage a married gay couple causes to a married heterosexual couple.

I wouldn't exactly call the push to make homosexuality a protected class, "bypass[ing] democratic processes."

Then the potential justices had better come up with some better reasons why homosexual behavior, above all else, should be discriminated against or denounced.
I'd say the courts have a less-than-ideal record of legislating "for your own good" behaviors. Very rarely is "Don't do that" the most useful response to adults who want to do something really badly.

Captain Pedantic

Well, thanks. How was I to know my very existance was destroying marriage and spreading disease, unless you told me?

Is the "gay culture" anything like the "gay lifestyle"? Is there a "straight culture"? What is this "culture" anyway? Is it "culture" as in "The Minister for Art and Culture", or is it something else?

You just mean "bumsex", don't you? Bumsex - it's not so hard to say.

BrotherMan

I have to wonder if he's ever asked "What should we make illegal next?"

Surely if we can intrude into the bedroom of two consenting adults of the same sex and tell them what they can and cannot do with their genitals, then we simply must (for the sake of society, and the children, my God, who's thinking about the children!) make non married sexual intercourse for everyone illegal. Heck, Alabama is already forging new ground, even! It is imperative that we make all sexual contact, with consenting adults and even with one's self illegal.

It all makes so much sense now!

:banghead:

tronvillain

JonathanChoice:
Well, being straight does not mean one does not enjoy "sodomy." *chuckle* Anyway, the funny thing is that I am not horrified by his slippery slope - I think that polygamy should be legal (though one should have to be an adult in order to be married), and children are unable to constent to sex.

dk

Marriage puts gay culture into the public schools and the broadcast media. There are a lot of people that don’t want their sons and daughters or students socialized by gay activists period, and much less so in public schools. Parents don’t want their kids to be gay, they don’t want the gay lifestyle normalized by the media, and they really don’t want their kids to grow up to be homosexuals, bisexuals or lesbians. Gays are stupid to mess with kids but don’t seem able to help themselves. I don’t understand why the media, universities and judges think they have a right to mess with kids.

The question most parents have in mind, “Is the homosexual culture a threat to my kids”. There’s no easy answer to the question. The incidence rates for HIV+ gays 14-25 have gone through the roof since HAART therapies have become available. Many parents are loosing all confidence in the fair whether forecasts of psychiatrists, pediatricians and elite opinion makers as the long term side affects of psychotropic therapies begin to register. I would agree that Gays shouldn’t be singled out above kiddy and adult porn. Nonetheless, parents don’t want their teenage daughters and sons sexualized by public school curriculum, media agendas or deviant culture. Despite all the soothing rhetoric from experts Parents trying to raise teenagers either know the risks posed by STDs, pregnancy, MSM and sexual assault, or find it so horrifying they stick their head in the sand. Gay culture sticks out like a sour them as the most prurient and promiscuous element in a market driven culture saturated with the sexual exploitation of youth.

The political spectrum swings on policies to deter or promulgate what the homosexual lifestyle represents. The truth is the homosexual community smolders with scandal, tragedy and violence. I’m not arguing that homosexuality is a social disease, or that homosexuals reproduce through social intercourse with youth. I’m appealing to common sense, if the public square threatens the welfare of youth, then the public square needs to clean up its act. My liberty ends where the freedom of others begin. So a nation, society or civilization has a responsibility to protect the freedom of youth in the public square.

I'd say the courts have a less-than-ideal record of legislating "for your own good" behaviors. Very rarely is "Don't do that" the most useful response to adults who want to do something really badly. The numbers speak for themselves, needless to say 20+ years into the HIV/AIDs epidemic, apparently older gay HIV/AIDs carriers have little regard for the next generation. Older people with AIDs that prey on inner city youth should put in jail, not given a marriage license.

Mageth

In my case, I was hit on the head by a bingo board and that turned me into a big lesbian.

Umm, that's not so bad; when I was a kid, I was hit on the head by a HOE (wielded by my brother; it was an accident). Guess what I turned into?

dk

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mageth
[B]In my case, I was hit on the head by a bingo board and that turned me into a big lesbian.

So what's your point.

1) do you think the explosion of HIV/AIDs in teenage gay boys is funny?
2) do you think a community youth center ravaged by middle aged sugar daddies is funny?
3) do you think a marriage licence and adoption papers are going to cure these sick perverts?


I don't understand your sense of humor at all.

Mageth

So what's your point.

Umm, the bold bit was a quote from someone else.

I don't understand your sense of humor at all.

Fine, don't laugh; so what's your point in this response?