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spin · 03-31-2002, 09:35 PM

The list shows a healthy respect for the 'minimalists'. At the same time, I note that you did not include the Finkelstein/Silberman work. I'd be interested in your review of that work.

I haven't actually read this book. I only cited books which I own. I know Finkelstein's material from articles published in learned journals. Scholarly articles are the real sources for archaeological input, which usually don't make it into many books. I can imagine the book you cite having a strong archaeological leaning, but not having read it, I cannot cite it.
Your list starts with Redford, yet you seemed to have some issue with his perspective (as noted at the bottom this thread's page 3). Is this a difference in assessment between you and Redford or the result of new archaeological data?

I didn't notice your question saying that I was in conflict with Redford. I may be though. What is this conflict? (And I don't have any new archaeological data.)
Could you suggest additional sources from the ranks of Egyptology?

My major interest is not Egyptology, it's Palestine. I do have an interest in the Philistines and that gives an indirect interest in the Egyptians. I don't really have any good sources for Egyptological material. I have a few collections of documents and a number of general works on Egypt as well as a few studies on specific periods and people, but the only thing that I might recommend is the Journal of Egyptian Archaeology as a good source for what might be of use, though as it is a journal it only deals with research that is though to be cutting edge in whatever direction it is aimed.

Jayhawker Soule · 04-01-2002, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by spin:
<strong>ReasonableDoubt citing Finkelstein/Silberman:
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It is ironic that the Sojourn and the Exodus themes, native in origin to the folklore memory of the Canaanite enclaves of the southern Levant, should have lived on not in that tradition but among two groups that had no involvement in the historic events at all -- the Greeks and the Hebrews. In the case of he latter, the Exodus was part and parcel of an array of origin stories to which the Hebrews fell heir upon their settlement of the land, and which, lacking traditions of their own, they appropriated from the earlier culture they were copying.
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I think they're going in the right direction, but have their timing wrong. The people who made the connection between the Hyksos and the Jews were the Egyptians in the post-exilic period. This is supported by the late date of the construction of Pi-Atum mentioned in Exodus 1. It is also supported by the very little reference to Moses in the prophets.</strong>

spin, you wrote: I didn't notice your question saying that I was in conflict with Redford. I may be though. What is this conflict? (And I don't have any new archaeological data.)"

The initial quote is from Redford, page 422, not Finkelstein/Silberman as you suggest.

spin · 04-01-2002, 04:24 AM

The above is obviously just my confusion.

03-31-2002, 09:35 PM	#81
spin Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 15,747	*The list shows a healthy respect for the 'minimalists'. At the same time, I note that you did not* include the Finkelstein/Silberman work. I'd be interested in your review of that work. I haven't actually read this book. I only cited books which I own. I know Finkelstein's material from articles published in learned journals. Scholarly articles are the real sources for archaeological input, which usually don't make it into many books. I can imagine the book you cite having a strong archaeological leaning, but not having read it, I cannot cite it. Your list starts with Redford, yet you seemed to have some issue with his perspective (as noted at the bottom this thread's page 3). Is this a difference in assessment between you and Redford or the result of new archaeological data? I didn't notice your question saying that I was in conflict with Redford. I may be though. What is this conflict? (And I don't have any new archaeological data.) Could you suggest additional sources from the ranks of Egyptology?** My major interest is not Egyptology, it's Palestine. I do have an interest in the Philistines and that gives an indirect interest in the Egyptians. I don't really have any good sources for Egyptological material. I have a few collections of documents and a number of general works on Egypt as well as a few studies on specific periods and people, but the only thing that I might recommend is the Journal of Egyptian Archaeology as a good source for what might be of use, though as it is a journal it only deals with research that is though to be cutting edge in whatever direction it is aimed.

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04-01-2002, 04:24 AM	#83
spin Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 15,747	The above is obviously just my confusion.

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