Ion

I disagree with this:
There is reason "...to believe that there isn't a God who can do the logically impossible...", once 'God' has been defined in 'divine texts', then the definition is inconsistent within the 'divine texts' and is inconsistent -outside of the 'divine texts'- with the laws of nature observed by science.

Case in point of inconsistent 'divine texts':
the Bible.

Dr Rick

Yeah, well I notice that the problem of demonstrating the inconsistencies and contradictions of Christianity gives theists the trots.

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But post-it makes an excellent point. Though Christians believe that God cannot do the logically impossible...

The point of post-it has been missed by you; he/she's been arguing that the Christian god is not confined or defined by logic.

The two of you are at odds, and the irony is that you don't even recognize it.

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...there is no reason to believe that there isn't a God who CAN do the logically impossible. The existence of any God who is said to do the logically impossible cannot be falsified. So really, all the hubris on this board is a bit misplaced.

What's displaced are the attempts to rationally argue the irrational. By this admission, you confirm the foolishness of arguing for the existence of your god.

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If there is a God, He would be such that He could not be effectively refuted by such as us. To think otherwise is just pride. There is no reason to assume that, if God exists, we should be able to prove His existence.

"If there is an Easter Bunny, He would be such that He could not be effectively refuted by such as us. To think otherwise is just pride. There is no reason to assume that, if the Easter Bunny exists, we should be able to prove His existence"

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There is no reason to assume that God is limited to logical possibilities

There is no reason to assume that the Easter Bunny is limited to logical possibilties. There is no reason to assume that unicorns are limited to logical possibilities. There is no reason to assume that Santa Claus is limited to logical possibilities. There is no reason to assume that Zeus is limited to logical possibilities...

There is no reason to be a Christian.

Rick

Ion

Any proof, outside the Bible, corroborating these religious claims from the Bible?

Because I don't know of any proof, so I don't
"...see God limit his power and other attributes as he comes to earth as Jesus...".

post-it

Try to stay with the thread; this statment was an answer to an earlier request for an example from the Bible on God limiting his power.

Ion

To stay with the thread, I see that "...God limit his power..." it's an unsupported claim you made in this thread.

post-it

So you think that Jesus had full attributes of a God while he was 2 years old? I don't think anyone here will accept that, atheists or Christians

Ion

I don't think that a 'Jesus' with full attributes of 'God', or with part attributes of 'God', existed.

I don't think that 'God' with attributes claimed in the Bible, exists or existed.

The Bible is a superstitious story -like many others- from 2000 years ago, and its knowledge is close to nil.

post-it

Well, that wasn't at issue in my posts, as I said, I was answering a question of an "example" in scripture. You need to review the posts to catch up. I'm not going off into another direction in this thread.

Ion

The "example" in scripture, is valid if it is sound.

Otherwise, it is preaching, and the discussion is unbalnced:
rational on the atheist side, against preaching -that 'God' has umlimited powers, limits his powers, sends 'Jesus' to earth, all unsupported claims- on the theist side.

post-it

Ion, I can't continue off subject. If you want to go into another subject of the existence of Jesus, you need to start a new thread.