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Old 02-18-2002, 12:11 AM   #11
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Hmm i didn't know that.

I thought of other new words I've had to learn, though unfortunately none with double meanings.

Glossolalia (sp?) and predestination and stigmata.
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Old 02-18-2002, 03:57 AM   #12
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the word i've found that invariably gives me the most trouble in conversations with christians is "christian". try getting a catholic, a southern baptist, a mormon and a jehovah's witness, to agree on a definition for the word and you'll be one up on me...

closely aligned to this is the shifting definitions employed in the "no true christian" (formerly scotsman) argument that is trotted out to defend the various crusades, inquisitions and bloody purges that christianity has played a hand in...

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Old 02-18-2002, 05:51 AM   #13
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RRH, I think that the point is well shown by most posters here that the theists have redefined words to suit their ideas. It is essential that believers always look like they know something that non-believers do not. Given the convoluted absurdities of theism this would be difficult without changing the definitions of words so that the theist looks smarter than the non-theist. The line,"You don't understand", is used by theists all the time to parry the questions of non-theists.

Look at the very word-religion. Although it has a definition in the dictionary, it means vast things to theists. The word- spiritual, is a veritable black hole that can drown a hundred definitions.

I see that the religious use language as means to their ends. By making up their own definitions they make themselves holders of an esoteric knowledge that is resistant to scrutiny from outsiders and likewise, their definitions keep the believers befuddled by obscuritanism. You can always win an argument when you define the words, even if you don't understand them yourself. Go over to the evolution/creation area and see how the slickest theistic wordsmiths operate.
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Old 02-18-2002, 07:02 AM   #14
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I got into a discussion with a minister years ago about the word 'baptism' It was carefully explained to me that the word had been 'transliterated' That is the origional word was baptiso which meant to dunk or immerse. According to the minister King James believed in sprinkling as a form of baptism so rather than risk the kings rath, a new wlrd 'baptism' was created.

I personally think it is so much bullshit but thought I would lay it out there, so to speak.

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Old 02-19-2002, 09:07 PM   #15
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Him: Do you enjoy creation?

Me: You mean, do I like making things?
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Old 02-19-2002, 10:31 PM   #16
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Originally posted by David Gould:
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And as it is a sin to not believe in God, I guess i am going to end up in Heaven.

Hmmm. Do they play cricket in Heaven?</strong>
Guess what, Cricket was the only game Talibans allowed their people to play officially. I bet Allah has created, in addition to the houris with wide lovely eyes, a cricket field bigger than MCG for His suicide-prone(?) followers. I will see if I can dig out a verse from Q'uran to tweak it to prove Allah does hint about the game in J'annat(Islamic heaven). I can't see how you and Talibans will end up being in the same place after death though.
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Old 02-20-2002, 12:52 PM   #17
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ob·scure adj.
Those portions of the bible that Christians either
1. don't know about
2. convienently ignore
3. choose to gloss over


Out of context adj.
Not in accord with my beliefs.

"Those evil athiests take obscure bible passages out of context so it looks like God is not a wonderful perfect supreme being."

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for, RRH?
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How about “witness” as a verb? To me, to witness means to see or to observe. To some Christians it seems to mean to hand out tracts and verbally harangue other people.
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