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Old 04-29-2002, 01:15 PM   #21
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What supports my beliefs on reincarnation is quite simple if you peer into my mind, since I can remeber I've always had a sixth sense about things be it good or bad.
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I assumed that eventualy one would do that, that's fine you don't know what I know, you have your own opinion, and I won't mock that and I'd appreciate the same in return
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I believe that there isn't a God simply because of the fact, that it's proposterose(don't mind the spelling) I have MY own evidence to back this up; God was invented way back in the day in order to control people, the people who wrote the Bible were writing it "for God, in his words" when in all actuality how could such information have been past down.
Your argument does not take into consideration that a god could, coincidently, exist which shares all of the attributes of what the conceptional god, made purely to control the masses, has. It doesn't even have to share all of the attributes to be considered a god by most. While this coincidence is very unlikely, it is still possible; thus you failed to prove that a god does not exist.

As for "how could this knowledge be passed down"; one could simply claim that an all-powerful, wise god would find a way.

Finally, how are you going to prove that the intentions of the authors were less than honorable?

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the fact that the Bible is full of insest and other lovely information, leads me to believe someone thought it up as a big joke and people loved it.
Other conclusions can be reached as well, however. For example incest and all those other disagreeable occurrences could be considered 'reflections of the time' (if I'm using that idiom correctly).

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The church was and still is the most powerful organization in the world, also all the money the church brings in, where does that go? God? I highly doubt it
The state of the messenger (greed, corruption, etc) does not alter the veracity of the message. You'll want to address the state of the author of the message if you wish to go that route.

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anywho I'm a Satanist(not a devil worshiper) who believes in reincarnation and that I'm my own God therefore responsible for my own future.
While I commend your taking responsibility for your own future (to the maximum extent possible for us petty humans ), I am interested in how you came by your belief in reincarnation. Is empirical evidence possible for such a thing, aside from the moot "past life memories"? If not, then surely you don't believe in it merely for the ease-of-mind it affords you.

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Besides it seems to far-fetched if you really look at the Bible anyway.
I agree that the events and characters the bible describes are very unlikely to have taken place and existed, but it was nevertheless not disproven. This is not to say that they ought to be believed in, merely that it is possible that they may have occurred (and in the case the bible's characters: that they may have existed). Nevertheless, nice try and welcome to the board .

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Old 04-29-2002, 01:22 PM   #24
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Mmmm, sounds like you argue for the sake of arguing. Why argue some thing that doesn't exist?

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What says it doesn't exist, you? If it didn't exist which maybe just maybe it doesn't why would I have such a strong belief?
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WJ,

I'd like to suggest that, instead of hijacking thread after thread with your "Why argue something that doesn't exist? Atheism is just another religion" line, you start a new thread and make a positive case for the assertion that "Atheism is just another religion." It's really getting tiresome to see the same nonsense pop up in thread after thread. Put up or shut up.
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(Quote)Your argument does not take into consideration that a god could, coincidently, exist which shares all of the attributes of what the conceptional god, made purely to control the masses, has. It doesn't even have to share all of the attributes to be considered a god by most. While this coincidence is very unlikely, it is still possible; thus you failed to prove that a god does not exist.(Quote)


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(Quote)Your argument does not take into consideration that a god could, coincidently, exist which shares all of the attributes of what the conceptional god, made purely to control the masses, has. It doesn't even have to share all of the attributes to be considered a god by most. While this coincidence is very unlikely, it is still possible; thus you failed to prove that a god does not exist.(Quote)


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Old 04-29-2002, 01:29 PM   #28
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Pompus!

The ball's in your court. I'm not the atheist who claims they know God doesn't exist; you do!

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The ball's in your court. I'm not the atheist who claims they know God doesn't exist; you do!

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You made the claim that Atheism is a religion, you are therefore obligated to support your assertion if you expect it to be taken seriously.

...same with your "God doesn't believe in atheism" quote.
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<strong>I just think that I control myself and I also have control over others be sub-concious or not, this probably seems like gibberish but it makes perfect sense to me.</strong>
It doesn't seem at all like gibberish that you have control over yourself.

That you have control over others...hmmm...depends what you mean.

We all influence others to some extent; are you saying you believe you can control the minds of others by telepathy or some 'spiritual' power or something? Can you elaborate on that?

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