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Old 09-04-2003, 02:25 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Did you know that the USA is Zion?

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Did Christ know of this North American Continent? ... Sure he did. Did He know this great nation would be Christian from its beginning? ... Of course he did. Is it possible that this nation, the greatest Christian super power of all time, known to Jesus Christ,was never mentioned, indicated, or foretold in the Bible?

Many Christians today have not been exposed to what our forefathers believed and understood. Whether through God's purposeful blindness or due to modern-day revisionists intense desire to rewrite our Christian American history, the fact remains, we have lost our true identity, our heritage, our Israel roots. It's time our people awakened from their sleep and learn not only their true history but also their destiny that is unfolding, even now, according to God's Divine Plan.

This book clearly shows that America (Zion) is the land set aside by God Almighty to be the place of regathered Israel.
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I thought we were babylon the great?
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Nah, that's the Roman Catholic Church or the EU.
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I think this book is right on the money. It would fix the Israel-Palaestinian stoush pretty quickly. Declare the USA as Zion, transport the 5 million or so Jews from Israel to the USA and leave Israel to the Palaestinians.

Simple, really.
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Sounds like Mormon shit to me. With out the Jews of course.
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So I'm not still in the Matrix?
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I think this book is right on the money. It would fix the Israel-Palaestinian stoush pretty quickly. Declare the USA as Zion, transport the 5 million or so Jews from Israel to the USA and leave Israel to the Palaestinians.

Simple, really.
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God's purposeful blindness


"it makes sence if you ignore *that* part over there, yeah...."
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that philosophy is shared by many "christians'


From the outset, US fundamentalist and pentecostalist leaders would
openly identify their understanding of Christianity with American
imperial values and ideals and even interpret any attack or criticism
against these as a challenge to the Christian faith. Explicit in their
sermons is the notion that the US is a 'chosen nation' or one of the
twelve lost tribes of Israel with a destined mission to save and
evangelise the world. In identifying their version of Christianity with
US imperial values and claims, fundamentalist and pentecostalist
preachers would not only assert that the US have a special place in
God's 'divine plan', but also went to adopt some of the ruthlessly
efficient methods and ways employed in the harsh and exploitative world
of US business.


In 1969 president Richard Nixon sent Nelson Rockefeller (later
Vice-President under Ford) on a fact-finding mission to Latin America.
The Rockefeller Commission found that 'the Catholic church has ceased to
be an ally in whom the US can have confidence' because of the spread of
liberation theology which was predominantly Catholic. To counter this,
the Commission recommended the promotion of 'an extensive campaign with
the aim of propagating Protestant churches and conservative sects in
Latin America'. For the first time, a clear-cut proposal to adopt the
promotion and infiltration of right-wing religious groups as official
policy was made. The promotion, infiltration and manipulation of various
US religious right-wing groups by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
in Latin America, South-East Asia and recently in Southern Africa would
seem to flow from these recommendations.


The paralysis engendered by the US defeat in Vietnam played a major role
in delaying the formal adoption and implementation of the Commission's
recommendation on a systematic and wide scale. It took ten years of
concerted pressure when, in April 1979, the Carter Administration formed
a body called the Consortium for the Study of Intelligence. It was
charged with the specific task of finding ways to boost the declining
fortunes of the CIA and restore its dubious reputation following Angola,
Iran, Grenada, and the Sandinista revolution. This included senior CIA
officers, leading academics and 'experts' on social sciences,
international law and politics. The Consortium's seven-volume report
recommended that during the 1980s, the US Government should promote the
emergence and expansion of CIA paramilitary operations in the form of
vigilante bands, death / assassination squads and right-wing religious
sects in areas of the world where American interests are threatened by
revolutionary and progressive movements. This was followed the next year
by the presentation and official adoption of the Santa Fe Document by
the Reagan Administration. The document recommended:



"foreign policy is the instrument by which peoples seek to assure their
survival in a hostile world. War, not peace, is the norm in
international affairs. Survival demands a new foreign policy. The US
must seize the ideological initiative or perish. The war is for the
minds of mankind. Ideo-politics will prevail ... US foreign policy must
begin to counter (not react against) liberation theology as it is
utilized in Latin America by the liberation clergy. The role of the
church in Latin America is vital to the concept of political freedom.
... private property and productive capitalism"


A month after Reagan's inauguration, a little noticed article by Strobe
Talbot suggested that Congress should repeal or amend legislation that
limits the CIA to conduct clandestine operations abroad. Two months
later, CIA Director William Casey issued a secret directive called 'The
Draft Plan of Operations in Africa and the Near East', urging the CIA to
increase its acts of state terrorism against progressive governments and
liberation movements in closer collaboration with the dictatorship and
repressive regimes of such countries as South Africa, Israel, Taiwan,
South Korea, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Reagan subsequently signed an
executive order relieving the CIA of too much Congressional oversight,
increasing its budget and allowing it a freer hand in carrying out its
criminal covert actions with the exception of assassinating foreign
political leaders and conducting 'research on human subjects'. The CIA
was given the green light to engage in any covert activity under the sun
that was approved by the President. In relation to the latter
restriction, the CIA could, however, still engage in 'research on human
subjects' as long as it is 'in accordance with guide-lines issued by the
Department of Health and Human Services'!

The process of giving the CIA more leeway to engage in covert actions
during this period did not start under Reagan; during its last year in
office, the Carter Administration was already under heavy pressure from
the Pentagon and State Department to find ways and means on restoring
the CIA's dubious reputation. The Carter Administration found itself not
only succumbing to this pressure, but to some extent can be held
responsible for bequeathing the use of religious personnel in CIA
intelligence-gathering to the Reagan Administration. This sense of
betrayal among the Carter Administration led them to secretly issue a
document known as the Dissent Paper (1980) criticising the dangerous
direction foreign policy was taking. As expected, this lone protest
within America's establishment went unheeded. It once again reminds us
that regardless of who is in the White House, US foreign policy has now
come to be conducted more bY the CIA and Pentagon than the State
Department, whose major task has been reduced to the issuing of
statements for public consumption and direct liaison with foreign
governments.

These measures formed part of a big and apparently innocuous propaganda
effort by the Reagan Administration, misleadingly called Public
Diplomacy, to persuade public opinion and win global support for its
aggressive intentions aimed at maintaining American hegemony over large
sections of the world's population through its 'lowintensity conflict'
doctrine. This effort was a component part of Reagan's much bigger
propaganda programme, 'Project Democracy', introduced to the Congress
under the title of 'Management of Public Diplomacy Relative to National
Security" to 'strengthen the organization, planning and co-ordination of
the various aspects of public diplomacy of the US Government'.

To this end, a special inter-agency body, called the Special Planning
Group on Public Diplomacy (SPGPD) was established and chaired by Robert
McFarlane, then assistant-secretary to the NSC president and composed of
the Secretaries of State and Defense, the Directors of the Information
Agency (USIA), the Agency for International Development (USAID) and the
President's assistant for communications.

In early 1983 George Shultz, then Secretary of State, presented a $65
million budget to the Congress for Project Democracy. The actual funding
of most projects abroad was done through a quasi governmental body known
as the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). The NED was founded at
the instigation of a small group of right-wing activists which included
Robert Pickus, a former OSS officer, consultant to USIA, the State and
Defense Departments as well as a long-standing opponent of the anti
Vietnam war and peace movement through his so-called World Without War
Council (WWWC) and the 'Peace, Freedom and Security Studies' (PFSS)
projects. Pickus, whose PFSS programmes were aimed at establishing a
stronghold by imposing a right-wing perspective on national security
issues in churches, evangelical colleges and seminaries throughout the
US, was also a founding member of the Institute on Religion and
Democracy (IRD). The IRD is a neo-conservative body founded by a group
of political campaigners and evangelical leaders in April 1981 with a
56,500 grant in seed money from the Smith Richardson Foundation (North
Carolina). It was founded on the basis of a report entitled 'Preliminary
Inquiry Regarding Financial Contributions to Outside Political Groups by
Board and Agencies of the United Methodist Church 1977-1979' and
supposedly written by one David Jessup. Jessup, a former member of the
American Peace Corps in Latin America and then a full-time staff member
of the AFL-CIO's Committee on Political Education had just managed to
work his way into the Marvin Memorial United Methodist Church, Silver
Spring, Maryland. The ideological colouring of the IRD can be seen by
its assertion that 'the most fundamental of all human rights is the
freedom of religious faith and practice' and that the US is the 'primary
bearer of the democratic possibility in the world today':

We believe that the personal and institutional ownership and control of
property - always as stewards of God to whom the whole creation belongs
- contributes greatly to freedom. We note as a matter of historical fact
that democratic governance exists only where the free market plays a
large part in a society's economy . . . God has made no special covenant
with America as such. God's covenant is with His creation, with Israel,
and with His Church. However, because America is a large and influential
part of His creation, because America is the home of most of the heirs
of Israel of old, and because this is a land in which His Church is
vibrantly free to live and proclaim the Gospel to the world, we believe
that America has a peculiar place in God's promises and purposes!


for more details see my British israel thread
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