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Coragyps · 04-05-2003, 06:15 AM

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Atomic time is measured by the motion of the electron around the nucleus of the atom, which, if the cDK (light speed decay) hypothesis is proved correct, has been slowing down since matter was first created. If this is the case, then all processes that depend on the behavior of the atom, including atomic dating, would be affected.

Errr - wouldn't that just possibly include the positions of spectral lines in faraway galaxies/quasars/gas clouds? And the rate of decay of nickel-56, known to be the same in supernovae billions of light years away as it is in Cleveland? You're quoting nonsense.

gallo · 04-05-2003, 07:04 AM

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Actually there are theories coming out about this.

Theories don't "come out." Theories are complex explanations of observations. Theories are predictive and they have been tested.

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First of all, radioactive dating isn't accurate into millions or billions of years.

Based on what evidence, please. My bet is that you don't have any. It's just that you cannot accept reality and must reject it.

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And there is a theory known as the cDK theory:

That's not a theory, it's an assertion. Creationists don't do science.

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If this is the case, then all processes that depend on the behavior of the atom, including atomic dating, would be affected.

And those that don't depend on the behavior of the atom wouldn't be affected, like the dissipation of the heat produced by radio decay. So how do you cram 13.7 years into 6,000 and have an earth that has a solid surface?

Magus55 · 04-05-2003, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Coragyps
Bullshit, Magus. Pure, unvarnished, smelly bullshit. And you've been shown that it is on these forums.

Back up your assertion, or quit making it.

Back up your assertion that God doesn't exist or quit making it...

Zadok001 · 04-05-2003, 08:09 AM

For the billionth time, atheists don't MAKE an assertion that God doesn't exist. They make an assertion that they do not BELIEVE God exists. THEISTS, on the other hand, make an assertion that God DOES exist. They believe he does, and assert "God exists." THAT is a claim, and THAT needs evidence.

Slavik91 · 04-05-2003, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Back up your assertion that God doesn't exist or quit making it...

Back up your assertion that God exists or quit making it...

Grumpy · 04-05-2003, 10:32 AM

How many people on this thread are serious, and how many sarcastic?

Alix Nenuphar · 04-05-2003, 12:35 PM

All posts on this thread are complete lies. Including this one.

Magus55 · 04-05-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Zadok001
For the billionth time, atheists don't MAKE an assertion that God doesn't exist. They make an assertion that they do not BELIEVE God exists. THEISTS, on the other hand, make an assertion that God DOES exist. They believe he does, and assert "God exists." THAT is a claim, and THAT needs evidence.

Actually, Iv'e seen numerous times on this board " God doesn't exist", "There is no heaven", yes I'm being technical but those are statements of fact, not belief.

Azathoth · 04-05-2003, 12:49 PM

Prove to me that a god or gods exist,because,right now,it appears as if there isn't one.(Or more than one.I'm not sure which supernatural belief system you have.)

Alix Nenuphar · 04-05-2003, 12:49 PM

Magus55:

I will grant that there are some fanatical atheists (those who have moved from 'probably doesn't exist' to 'absolutely does not exist')...but your claim is of a different order. Do you, in fact, have any support for your assertion that

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First of all, radioactive dating isn't accurate into millions or billions of years.

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04-05-2003, 08:09 AM	#14
Zadok001 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Two Steps Ahead Posts: 1,124	For the billionth time, atheists don't MAKE an assertion that God doesn't exist. They make an assertion that they do not BELIEVE God exists. THEISTS, on the other hand, make an assertion that God DOES exist. They believe he does, and assert "God exists." THAT is a claim, and THAT needs evidence.

04-05-2003, 10:32 AM	#16
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	How many people on this thread are serious, and how many sarcastic?

04-05-2003, 12:35 PM	#17
Alix Nenuphar Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 113	All posts on this thread are complete lies. Including this one.

04-05-2003, 12:49 PM	#19
Azathoth Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The centre of infinity Posts: 1,181	Prove to me that a god or gods exist,because,right now,it appears as if there isn't one.(Or more than one.I'm not sure which supernatural belief system you have.)

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