HelenM

Maybe I should have said: try everything having ascertained it might be helpful. I think that's closer to what I would do.

I don't really try things without trying to check them out first. But I don't want to be closed to trying what really could help.

I've noticed that

In a sense it can't, but in another sense, quite a lot of human experience is somewhat comparable and some people can therefore relate to some extent even if they haven't had the exact same experience.

To some extent. But it's tricky when a) your actions affect those around you (and they generally do) and b) you can't trust your own judgment because you have an illness whose symptoms include 'impaired judgment'.

I agree insofar as it's very important to take responsibility for the quality of your own life. Some people erroneously think they can only be happy if their circumstances are right. I disagree although I think it's foolish to expect to be impervious to difficult circumstances on the other hand. Yet we have a lot of control over our own reactions to events and people that are outside our control.

They can be, to those who take that perspective.

Or they can be times of no growth.

I understand.

There are three of you but how many write on these boards - just one?

take care
Helen

Nowhere357

Hi Malai. Just wondeing how your recruiting was doing.

malai5

Dear HelenM.

Yes, humans relate to suffering, but there is always a sense of their own falibility, or mortality associated with that understanding. It often brings some closer, others move further away.
Well Helen, everything one does affects those around us. It is the ''judgement'' as to whether one's judgement is impaired or not, that makes the difference. We guess ''impaired'' judgement must mean you not being you, or as you were seen as, even by you.

So true, we can control our own reactions to events and people, but by definition a reaction is an automatic process, a habitual way of responding. To climb over learned responses is the key to difficult circumstances and people. To see where the problem lies, whether it be in you or them. Obviously, if you react, there must be some need to defend or protect yourself. In reality, there should be no need for this, as one is as good as anyone else.
Circumstances being ''right'' is like a dog chasing it's tail, the dog will not achieve it's end, and no circumstance would be right, as the ''imagined right situation'' is just that, a fabrication of a perceived ideal. The people who need an ''end'' to be realised, will never know happiness, for they are living in the future and ignoring their life in the now.

Well Helen, periods of suffering, as you said, if seen in the positive, are periods of growth. If not, one would see oneself as a victim and be a lesson to those around of what not to do.

When we post on this board, the articles come through the other ''M'' of M.A.M. The answers to and the explaining of the articles comes through me, Malai5.
Our other member of the little trio does post ocasionally, but under the Malai5 account. When this occurs, there will be an acknowledgement.

Cheers.

Malai5.

malai5

Dear Nowhere357.

We would miss you if you did not pop your head up every now and then.
We can see you with your pen and clipboard anxiously awaiting the next drone like human to fall victim to the smooth spiel of the universal snake oil salesman. We can hear the glee in your voice as you mutter ''stupid brainless git'' and chalk up another victim of ignorance.

Well Nowhere357, thats why we picked here. Can't you guess.
Oops, you found us out. Better fold up our collapsable table, put the snake oil back in the travelling bag and be out of town before sundown. Would that make you happy?

Well, it kinda don't work that way. We happen to think there are enough descriminating intelligent beings on this board who think for themselves and decide if our universal information sits with them or not.
We offer another way to view the world and the universe, that is all. The 3 of us are more than enough to keep in line.

Cheers.

M.A.M.

Malai5.

HelenM

Here's an example of impaired judgment: thinking you wouldn't mind if I burned down your house as long as I think I have a good reason for it. (Moreover, regardless of what I think, I probably don't have a good reason for it, because my judgment is impaired and so I'm not good at assessing what a 'good reason' is right now)

I think it's fair to say that to some extent I wasn't 'me' when I was ill. Those who know me would probably agree with that.

Thanks for the response and thanks for explaining a little about who does what in M.A.M.

Helen

Darth Dane

M.A.M = ???

Oh and I thought it was about Love



DD - Love Spliff

Nowhere357

I like you, Malai. I wouldn't change you, if I could.

One thing I like is your "thick skin". I'm a bit disappointed that my gentle tactics have succeeded in annoying you. I'll get over it, I guess.

This religion/philosophy you have invented/received is at worst, harmless. IMO. It seems to have positive qualities, which may be useful to some people.

You are in touch with your spiritual side. I think that's a good thing. We all should listen to our inner selves.

You add a colorful and human quality to this board. In all seriousness, more power to you!

See ya later.

HelenM

I was a bit surprised too. Maybe malai5 was having a bad day.

He's (?) still my role model in displaying amazing amounts of patience (the rest of the time) .

Helen

malai5

Dear HelenM.

Well firstly, you obviously did not burn the house down. What stopped you?
People have the most terrible thoughts sometimes, we all do, but we don't carry them through. If anyone of us admitted these thoughts, they would attract the ''rubber truck''.
Did it worry you that these types of thoughts had not been a part of your thinking before?
Hope you don't mind these questions, but we are interested as we deal with people, in councilling and these things come up. The human condition is not just limited to the expressed ''norm'', but treatment often is.

Cheers.

Malai5.

malai5

Dear HelenM.

We have a bit of a ''black'' sense of humor and sometimes we cannot resist letting it off it's leash.
We do not get mad, we just make a joke of it.
Sometimes some of the posts are so patently silly, they deserve a bit of a serve back across the net.
Helen, we have patience in abundance, sometimes we play a little.

Cheers.

Malai5.