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snatchbalance · 03-27-2002, 12:31 PM

Irelleus

"Modern philosophy recognizes no proven translation between mind and matter."

I don't know if philosophy has anything to do with it. I could be wrong, but until we find something other than matter/energy to work with, well what do you propose?

John Page · 03-27-2002, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Ierrellus:
Modern philosophy recognizes no proven translation between mind and matter.

But uses it constantly.

snatchbalance · 03-28-2002, 06:44 AM

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The human brain works on about 8 watts of electricity. If a computer were built to make all human brain associations, correlations, etc., it would be the size of Texas and ten stories high. THE THREE POUND UNIVERSE--Hooper& Teresi.

The human genome fits on 23 microscopic bundles of protien. Each transfer of information requires much less than a micro watt.

Ierrellus · 03-28-2002, 07:09 AM

Snatchbalance,

Thanks for your input. About my statement on modern philosophy, I was hoping someone would contadict me. I tried Pat Churchland's NEUROPHILOSOPHY several years ago and didn't have the background to appreciate the book. Does anyone know if it is worthy of appreciation?

Ierrellus

Ierrellus · 03-28-2002, 08:13 AM

Theory

Mental content consists of symbolized genetic activity.

I had a prof. once who said if you cant state it in a sentence, you can't state it in a book.

Ierrellus

John Page · 03-28-2002, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Ierrellus:
Theory
Mental content consists of symbolized genetic activity.

Isn't this back to idealism? How can our thoughts about stars be "sybolized genetic activity"?

Ierrellus · 03-28-2002, 11:13 AM

John.

Idealism? No. Experience? Yes. Stars are the ova of our universe, interpreted as emitting the elements responsible for life and for the environments necessary for life's propagation. Whatever we discover in space is a discovery within ourselves. We cannot see beyond genetics!

In a humorous vein, I am happy to be a stellar fart!

Ierrellus

[ March 28, 2002: Message edited by: Ierrellus ]

John Page · 03-28-2002, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Ierrellus:
......Stars are the ova of our universe, interpreted as emitting the elements responsible for life and for the environments necessary for life's propagation..... In a humorous vein, I am happy to be a stellar fart!

ROFLMAO. Gee Ierrellus, I don't know how to break this to you but farts do not cause the propogation of life. Quite the opposite in my experience.....

Ierrellus · 03-29-2002, 04:02 AM

John,
Here's more merriment. Webster definition of guanine--a purine that is a constituent of both RNA and DNA--{from where it is found "guano"}--a substance composed chiefly of the dung of sea
birds or bats. . .

Batshit as a tool for propagation of life forms?
Nature abhors a vacuum!

Ierrellus

snatchbalance · 03-29-2002, 04:28 AM

Irelleus

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Mental content consists of symbolized genetic activity.

Abstraction is an expression of genetic activity?

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: snatchbalance ]

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Ierrellus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,082	John. Idealism? No. Experience? Yes. Stars are the ova of our universe, interpreted as emitting the elements responsible for life and for the environments necessary for life's propagation. Whatever we discover in space is a discovery within ourselves. We cannot see beyond genetics! In a humorous vein, I am happy to be a stellar fart! Ierrellus [ March 28, 2002: Message edited by: Ierrellus ]</p>

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03-27-2002, 12:31 PM	#31
snatchbalance Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CT Posts: 333	Irelleus "Modern philosophy recognizes no proven translation between mind and matter." I don't know if philosophy has anything to do with it. I could be wrong, but until we find something other than matter/energy to work with, well what do you propose?

03-28-2002, 07:09 AM	#34
Ierrellus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,082	Snatchbalance, Thanks for your input. About my statement on modern philosophy, I was hoping someone would contadict me. I tried Pat Churchland's NEUROPHILOSOPHY several years ago and didn't have the background to appreciate the book. Does anyone know if it is worthy of appreciation? Ierrellus

03-28-2002, 08:13 AM	#35
Ierrellus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,082	Theory Mental content consists of symbolized genetic activity. I had a prof. once who said if you cant state it in a sentence, you can't state it in a book. Ierrellus

03-29-2002, 04:02 AM	#39
Ierrellus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,082	John, Here's more merriment. Webster definition of guanine--a purine that is a constituent of both RNA and DNA--{from where it is found "guano"}--a substance composed chiefly of the dung of sea birds or bats. . . Batshit as a tool for propagation of life forms? Nature abhors a vacuum! Ierrellus

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