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Old 02-20-2002, 12:31 PM   #11
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<a href="http://www.frankinatra.com/HillDanClark2.htm" target="_blank">This month's Hillbilly: Pseudo-scientist, Dan Clark</a>

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Seems like a lot of ranting over nothing. What did this guest talk about specifically?

I just went over to AIG and seaarched for "Dan Clark" and found an article on the matter. It says the guest didn't mention relgion, God, etc. He even did a science experiment according to them and criticized origion of life theories. What is all the fuss about? Using slides with "God" masked over with tape was pretty lame. Is any criticism of current theories considered religious, creationism, etc? I'm curious. I checked out the bio for the speaker, Stevens, and he has a undergraduate degree in physics and nothing more. You would think he would have had a chemist speak in his "chemistry" class....

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Old 02-20-2002, 02:06 PM   #12
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When the "Special Creation" lobby was going on at Lafayette Jefferson High, I, and some others, was engaging the students in debate on their "specialcreation.net" website. The usual crap.

I also communicated with one of the science faculty there (Steve Radnak - I think he featured briefly, along with Clare McKinney in the PBS show).

Late last year the specialcreation.net website disappeared. I recently exchanged e-mails with Steve, congratulating him and Clare on the PBS show. He tells me the specialcreation website was taken down "after it started looking too much like an evolution site" (presumably meaning the contributions from evolutionists to the message board were starting to look far too convincing ) but they are still suffering from opinion pieces in the local media.

Steve and Clare seem like pretty cool science teachers to me. I wish I could send them a virtual hug
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As a certified redneck and hillbilly I am offended at being compared with this yahoo from Indiana.

Just because we're rural and work blue colar jobs doesn't mean we don't beleive in evolution or enjoy science!!!


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Old 02-21-2002, 04:46 AM   #14
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Seems like a lot of ranting over nothing. What did this guest talk about specifically?
Well it started when Clark used his chemistry class to "correct" some of the "misinformation" the students were receiving in their biology unit on evolution. This was his stated purpose: "I want to correct some of the misinformation you have received in biology." After some complaints were made to the administration, Clark was told to refrain from using his chemistry class to teach about materials unrelated to chemistry and stick to the required curriculum.

Clark then invited a guest speaker to his class who then "corrected" this "misinformation" instead of Clark directly. The school board then wrote a letter reprimanding Clark's insubordination regarding curriculum standards and had it placed in Clark's file. Clark filed suit to have this letter of reprimand removed from his file. The school board refused and Clark resigned in a huff.

All of this was occurring in a school where a substantially large group of students and teachers signed a petition demanding that "special creation" be taught in biology and a couple of local churches financed a presentation at the high school by Ken "Were You There?" Ham (a fringe, nut-job creationist if there ever was one).

The school board took a stand regarding curriculum standards in both the petition and Mr. Clark cases. Unfortunately, the issue of evolution in high school biology is far from settled as far as the local creationists are concerned.

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Well it started when Clark used his chemistry class to "correct" some of the "misinformation" the students were receiving in their biology unit on evolution. This was his stated purpose: "I want to correct some of the misinformation you have received in biology." After some complaints were made to the administration, Clark was told to refrain from using his chemistry class to teach about materials unrelated to chemistry and stick to the required curriculum.

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Ahh, I see and understand the fuss now. Thanks

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