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Yellum Notnef · 06-30-2003, 07:29 PM

Sorry but it don't get any wackier than believing some guy who was god died for your sins and then came back to life 2000 years ago. Slice it and dice it and compare it to whatever you want,but it's still no wackier to believe that than anything those other Christians you don't agree with believe.

Evangelion,
Your response makes no sense at all.

Sabine,
This really isn't the time for a "hands across America/Can't we all just get along" precious moment. I'm simply pointing out how comical it is for ANY Christian who believes in the resurrection to poke fun at any other group of "wacky" Christians.

The_Unknown_Banana · 06-30-2003, 07:43 PM

lol, it's true really. But I do see evangelion's point - I myself consider mormons and JW's even more misguided than those of most other mainstream christian faiths. (Especially mormons. Don't know that much about JW)

Yellum Notnef · 06-30-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by The_Unknown_Banana
lol, it's true really. But I do see evangelion's point - I myself consider mormons and JW's even more misguided than those of most other mainstream christian faiths. (Especially mormons. Don't know that much about JW)

So what's the threshold where Christian beliefs get too misguided?

The JW's and Mormons seem to have always been the whipping boy of all the Christian sects,but it wasn't unbelievers who gave them the bad rap. This was done to them by other Christians.

My point was that Christians have a tendancy to often point to another Christian group and say "I'm Christian,but I'm not nut's like those other Christians.

It's a diversion that I find amusing.

The_Unknown_Banana · 06-30-2003, 08:20 PM

don't get me wrong, I think they're all too misguided. Just I can understand why other christians would laugh at JW's and mormons.

But yeah, they're all just as believable as each other from an atheist POV. (I think the difference being that we know more about the writer/con-man who created mormonism than we do about the writers of the original bible)

Dark Jedi · 06-30-2003, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Evangelion
I had heard a great deal about the series, but only watched it for the first time last week. It nearly lived up to my expectations, being absolutely superb all the way through.... until I reached the bizarre (and totally meaningless) conclusion.

Neon Genesis is about the journey... ignore the conclusion.

Waning Moon Conrad · 07-01-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Fenton Mulley

Behold the incontrovertible evidence of white racial superiority!

Jesus wept!

Why don't they have a vomiting smilie?

I can't help feeling that Macduff articulated it beautifully. "Methinks the man doth protest too much!"

Has anybody else here had the experience of being a teenager exploring the world of illicit drugs and.....smoking a cone of basil, parsley or oregano handed to them by an older and benevolent drug hierophant with harley davidson belt buckle and jack daniels t shirt who assured them that it was really good gear?

And, anxious to actually get stoned and find out what it's really like, anxious to have an experience did anybody else here insist to themselves in particular and others in general that hey wow! I can really feel it man! Wow hey! Gawd strewth this is great! Wow man! etc etc?

I really think that it might be the same thing with these guys in the photo and I suspect that they become zealous evangelists because whilst focusing enthusiastically on getting others to believe, they avoid confronting the fact that deep down, they really don't!

Waning Moon Conrad · 07-01-2003, 09:51 AM

Evangelion,

I think you've got bloody good taste in music.

Farren · 07-02-2003, 02:08 PM

I've gotta weigh in for Evangelion here. He may have a few unprovable and slightly wierd (from my perspective) beliefs, but he's a rational thinker on most other topics, nonetheless.

He's making a non-trivial distinction when he distances himself from the kind of people who think all homosexuals are Satan-worshippers and the world is run by a Jewish/Freemason conspiracy.

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06-30-2003, 07:29 PM	#31
Yellum Notnef Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 4,676	Sorry but it don't get any wackier than believing some guy who was god died for your sins and then came back to life 2000 years ago. Slice it and dice it and compare it to whatever you want,but it's still no wackier to believe that than anything those other Christians you don't agree with believe. Evangelion, Your response makes no sense at all. Sabine, This really isn't the time for a "hands across America/Can't we all just get along" precious moment. I'm simply pointing out how comical it is for ANY Christian who believes in the resurrection to poke fun at any other group of "wacky" Christians.

06-30-2003, 07:43 PM	#32
The_Unknown_Banana Regular Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 179	lol, it's true really. But I do see evangelion's point - I myself consider mormons and JW's even more misguided than those of most other mainstream christian faiths. (Especially mormons. Don't know that much about JW)

06-30-2003, 08:20 PM	#34
The_Unknown_Banana Regular Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 179	don't get me wrong, I think they're all too misguided. Just I can understand why other christians would laugh at JW's and mormons. But yeah, they're all just as believable as each other from an atheist POV. (I think the difference being that we know more about the writer/con-man who created mormonism than we do about the writers of the original bible)

07-01-2003, 09:51 AM	#37
Waning Moon Conrad Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Victoria. Australia Posts: 1,417	Evangelion, I think you've got bloody good taste in music.

07-02-2003, 02:08 PM	#38
Farren Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: South Africa Posts: 2,194	I've gotta weigh in for Evangelion here. He may have a few unprovable and slightly wierd (from my perspective) beliefs, but he's a rational thinker on most other topics, nonetheless. He's making a non-trivial distinction when he distances himself from the kind of people who think all homosexuals are Satan-worshippers and the world is run by a Jewish/Freemason conspiracy.

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