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Old 06-27-2003, 07:07 PM   #31
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Top ten myths about Indian history
Myth 5:
Indian kings never invaded foreign lands:
this is a recent myth, but a great many people seem to be ignorant of history. Indian kings set up South Asian empires overseas --- any detailed history books will tell you that.

Myth 7:
The self-sacrifice of the fair queen Padmini:
possibly untrue, but jwahar was committed by later queens.

Myth 9:
Jehangir was the son of Hindu queen Jodhabai:
there are volumes and volumes on Akbra's life, most written during his reign. You must go through all of them before concluding that the mother's name was not mentioned.
Besides this is such a longstanding story that it is in every reputable history book; so exhaustive research must be done.
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Kali is a goddess, I have been told that long ago the priests could see that simple farmers woldn't understand the concept or Time, and Time is one of God's attributes, so we can reach God if we transcend Time. But simple people may difficulty undertsanding this so they made an image of Time, depicted as Kali.


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This however is only one explanation of Kali.
Another much more probable is the worship of the Mother Goddess.
Kali standing on the corpse of Shiva holding bloodied heads in Hindu iconography is the terrible form of the Mother Goddess, one of her ten forms.
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This however is only one explanation of Kali.
Another much more probable is the worship of the Mother Goddess.


Mother Goddess is Shakti afaik.

Kali standing on the corpse of Shiva holding bloodied heads in Hindu iconography is the terrible form of the Mother Goddess, one of her ten forms.

Kali is just one of the 10 cosmic powers, the 10 powers Shakti can be divided in.

Bhairavi is also a terrible form of the Goddess.




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Myth 5:
Indian kings never invaded foreign lands:
this is a recent myth, but a great many people seem to be ignorant of history. Indian kings set up South Asian empires overseas --- any detailed history books will tell you that.
Actually, the idea that Indian kings set up colonies in Southeast Asia is a myth of the 1920s Indian nationalist movement. cf. R. C. Majumdar's Ancient Indian colonies in the Far East from 1927. Nowadays the consensus is that the civilisations of Java, Champa, and Cambodia developed independently and voluntarily "Sanskritised".

The Chola expedition against Shriivijaya mentioned in the link does show that Indian kings were capable of attacking "foreign lands" (whatever that means), but they certainly never conquered these areas.
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Bagong, can you give me links or books about sanskritization of these areas?
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Unfortunately it's a bit of an obscure subject, so there's little good information available online, or in popular-interest history books - only specialised academic works.

Some interesting books are Kenneth Hall's The Origins of Southeast Asian Statecraft, Trade and Statecraft in the Age of the Colas and Maritime Trade and State Development in Early Southeast Asia, the first volume of the Cambridge History of Southeast Asia, and Early south east Asia : essays in archaeology, history, and historical geography, especially the essay by Wolters on Khmer Hinduism in the 7th century.
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