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Old 04-21-2003, 10:36 AM   #11
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My experience has been the opposite. The more religious scientists are usually the least capable. It also makes sense that it is so. A really good scientist or engineer is a cause and effect person. They strive to understand nature in terms of natural explanations that they can effectively test and apply. This leaves no room for god. If any scientist did start explaining their work in terms of spirits, demons or angels, they would rightly be laughed out of the lab.

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Why do the religious in general believe that science and religion are two separate dimensions of knowledge, that they are both the truth, and that science cannot say anything about religion, because it is a separate dimension of knowledge?


They nowadays have no choice. Science has eaten so much into the claims of religion that the only way to defend religion from a total collapse is to break off the battlements.

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Yet religion often -- nay almost always -- makes claims about the physical world. Does not science deal with the physical world? Is it not therefore open to scientific criticism, and hence not a separate, special sphere of knowledge, about which science cannot say anything?


I agree with you, and I believe old religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam should be discarded.

Theistic religions got it wrong about it many things, such as the shape of the earth, its position, prayers being answered and special creation. Whether they were wrong about a creator and about souls remains to be seen, however. I for my part believe in a creator-God (intelligent author of the laws of nature) and in souls.

The greatest error of theistic religion is the assumption that there could be violations of natural law. Science has shown that there can't.
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