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Old 01-20-2003, 06:46 AM   #11
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Thank you very much ApostateAbe. I will do some reading on the subject and post my opinion later.
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Old 01-20-2003, 07:11 AM   #12
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Lightbulb In this case....

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I hope you can understand why I am careful about any article written on one person or the other if the name is mispellt. That you mispelt it I can understand.... but that the author of the article who also pertains to describe biographical facts about LaHaye and uses those to portray La haye in the manner he did, mispells it, tells me clearly that he has not done much personal research. There is a difference between expressing an opinion and trying to project the idea that someone can be an expert on the character of another person. Can you see the nuance?
On the other hand, it is certainly possible that even one who has done careful research and verified his facts might make a typo...

As it seems to be in this case. One can read LaHaye's lunacy for itself in his own words in his several works of fiction and those that he claims are non-fiction (Christian "self-help" books on marriage & "Christian living", and at least one commentary on Revelations).

Like most fundamentalists, LaHaye is a dogmatic demagogue who demonizes all whose opinions differ from his own (hey! alliteration! ). His ideas seem to be so far-out that even most of my Christian friends and relatives brand him a "wacko". In addition, his association of "humanist" with "devil" stands in clear contradiction to the strong humanist movement in Christian history and practice (cf. Erasmus).

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Also as a general comment... I believe that knowledge is acquired as we allow our minds to read all kinds of literature. Certainly criticism of any book has no validy unless you have read it. Would you allow yourself to be critical of a movie you have not seen? or comment on the taste of a dish you have not tried?
I would tend to agree, however...

I don't need to eat okra casserole to know that it's yucky. I can generalize based on my knowledge of the hideous, slimy taste of okra (apologies to okra fans!).

Similarly, I don't need to read every book by a lunatic in order to decide whether or not it might be of some value. Once I have read enough to determine that the man is indeed delusional (as LaHaye clearly is), then I am justified in disregarding further babblings until and unless I am provided further evidence to the contrary.

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I haven't read it, but a few years ago LaHaye cowrote a book on secular humanism - Mind Siege. Chapter titles include "Humanism is Unscientific," "Humanism Is a Religion," and "Humanists Control America."

My father, a fan of the Left Behind books (and a Catholic to boot) had it on his shelf. Not sure if he read it or what he thought about it - but it's clear to me he never would have picked the book up if he hadn't been reading LaHaye's other forms of fiction.
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Since when do Catholics believe in the rapture? I was born and raised a Catholic and I never heard the term rapture once. seems weird your grandfather would be reading those books as it completely goes against Catholics beliefs...
 
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Since when do Catholics believe in the rapture? I was born and raised a Catholic and I never heard the term rapture once. seems weird your grandfather would be reading those books as it completely goes against Catholics beliefs...
Especially because popular opinion on the rapture would be very clear that Catholics wouldn't be raptured--unless they were "true" Christians (born-again). In the Left Behind books, Mother Theresa is raptured, but the pope isn't.
(If I recall correctly. Also a Catholic becomes head of the one-world religion I think.)

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Since when do Catholics believe in the rapture? I was born and raised a Catholic and I never heard the term rapture once. seems weird your grandfather would be reading those books as it completely goes against Catholics beliefs...
Right - Catholic doctrine does not include the rapture (I was brought up Catholic as well). I'm not exactly sure what Dad believes - what I do know is that he attends mass just about every weekend and he also reads the books and has the first movie. I'm maintaining a "don't ask, don't tell" behavior with my family as far as religion and belief go, though, so I'm not sure what he makes of it. I suspect that he doesn't try to reconcile Catholic dogma with what appears in the Left Behind series. Politically he leans to the left, so I would imagine he'd have trouble reconciling those beliefs with the ones LeHaye espouses about humanism. That's all just a guess, though.

My point was that due to LaHaye's association with well known and liked works (Left Behind series), people are likely to listen to him on other topics (humanism).
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