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NiGhT SpAwN · 12-31-2001, 04:30 PM

I'd like for all evolutionists to please list all of the facts that evolution is true. No assumptions, please, just facts.
Also, please try to stay on subject

Which means I'm only looking for facts on evolution....no opinions on creation.

SingleDad · 12-31-2001, 04:38 PM

<a href="http://www.talkorigins.org" target="_blank">Talk.Origins</a>

theyeti · 12-31-2001, 04:41 PM

Just a few briefly before the new year's eve celebrations kick off. Others can add more.

Inheritance is particulate, not blending.
More organisms are being born than can possibly survive for any given species.
Some organisms have traits that are more conducive to survival and reproduction than others.
Fossils are the remains of past organisms; the fossil record shows a progressive trend from organisms less similar to modern organisms to those that are more similar to modern organisms.
Modern organisms exist in nested heirarchies.
Species that live parts of the world that contain fossils for similar extinct organisms; Species distribution (eg. islands) shows species that are similar but distinct living in close proximity.

There's lots more, but the party calls.

theyeti

Kevin Dorner · 12-31-2001, 04:44 PM

Or more specifically if you're interested in evolutionary biology: <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html" target="_blank">Talk.Origins Biology and Evolutionary Theory</a>

notto · 12-31-2001, 05:07 PM

NiGhT SpAwN
Perhaps we should start by correcting some of the faulty information you give at your website
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/night_spawn19/evolution.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/night_spawn19/evolution.html</a>

This:
thermodynamics: the study of heat power; a branch of physics which studies the efficiency of energy transfer and exchange.

Has nothing to do with
This:
It is partially a universal law of decay; the ultimate cause of why everything ultimately falls apart and disintegrates over time. Material things are not eternal. Everything appears to change eventually, and chaos increases. Nothing stays as fresh as the day one buys it; clothing becomes faded, threadbare, and ultimately returns to dust.

Fact: Evolution cannot be shown to violate the 2nd law of Thermodynamics (which is a mathematical equation that defines the transfer and distribution of heat energy in a specifically defined closed system).

NiGhT SpAwN · 12-31-2001, 05:13 PM

I went to talk.origins and I noticed articles from both sides. Might I add that neither side proves the other wrong or right.

I notice, theyeti, that there are creation articles that give better proof than that, that shows how evolution isn't true.
My point for starting this thread is to ask a question. Why back up something that can't be proven right

DougI · 12-31-2001, 05:22 PM

Maybe you ought to go to your local University's library and read the journal Evolution. Every article is a scientific study which validates evolution. Presenting all the evidence for evolution would fill a couple of libraries.

trunks2k · 12-31-2001, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by NiGhT SpAwN:
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My point for starting this thread is to ask a question. Why back up something that can't be proven right</strong>

Must... resist... comment.... can't do it....

ARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

LOOK WHO'S TALKING! HOW CAN YOU BACK UP A BELIEF IN GOD IF IT CAN'T BE PROVEN RIGHT? HOW CAN YOU BACK UP THE IDEA THAT UNIVERSE WAS CREAED BY A GOD WHEN THERE'S NO, I REPEAT, NO EVIDENCE FOR IT?

tgamble · 12-31-2001, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by NiGhT SpAwN:
[QB]I went to talk.origins and I noticed articles from both sides.

That's ironic. most cretinist bitch about how biased it is....

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I notice, theyeti, that there are creation articles that give better proof than that, that shows how evolution isn't true.

Link to any site that gives the slightest shred of evidence against evolution. Or for creationism. Real honest evidence. Not made up bullshit.

NiGhT SpAwN · 12-31-2001, 07:00 PM

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LOOK WHO'S TALKING! HOW CAN YOU BACK UP A BELIEF IN GOD IF IT CAN'T BE PROVEN RIGHT? HOW CAN YOU BACK UP THE IDEA THAT UNIVERSE WAS CREAED BY A GOD WHEN THERE'S NO, I REPEAT, NO EVIDENCE FOR IT?

Actually we do have evidence, but that's a different thread there, genius

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Link to any site that gives the slightest shred of evidence against evolution. Or for creationism. Real honest evidence. Not made up bullshit.

Try any and every one. Give me a link that gives real, honest evidence for evolution. Not made up stuff.

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That's ironic. most cretinist bitch about how biased it is

ok...point?

Hey, notto, is this thread about my site? if you have a prob with it, guess what....TOO BAD!!!
Also, I'd like to ask this question:
Why is it that evolutionists all give me different definitions/comments on 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?

12-31-2001, 04:30 PM	#1
NiGhT SpAwN Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US Posts: 24	Seeking Facts I'd like for all evolutionists to please list all of the facts that evolution is true. No assumptions, please, just facts. Also, please try to stay on subject Which means I'm only looking for facts on evolution....no opinions on creation.

12-31-2001, 04:41 PM	#3
theyeti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 9,747	Just a few briefly before the new year's eve celebrations kick off. Others can add more. Inheritance is particulate, not blending. More organisms are being born than can possibly survive for any given species. Some organisms have traits that are more conducive to survival and reproduction than others. Fossils are the remains of past organisms; the fossil record shows a progressive trend from organisms less similar to modern organisms to those that are more similar to modern organisms. Modern organisms exist in nested heirarchies. Species that live parts of the world that contain fossils for similar extinct organisms; Species distribution (eg. islands) shows species that are similar but distinct living in close proximity. There's lots more, but the party calls. theyeti

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12-31-2001, 04:38 PM	#2
SingleDad Banned Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Littleton, CO, USA Posts: 1,477	<a href="http://www.talkorigins.org" target="_blank">Talk.Origins</a>

12-31-2001, 04:44 PM	#4
Kevin Dorner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 762	Or more specifically if you're interested in evolutionary biology: <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html" target="_blank">Talk.Origins Biology and Evolutionary Theory</a>

12-31-2001, 05:07 PM	#5
notto Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN US Posts: 133	NiGhT SpAwN Perhaps we should start by correcting some of the faulty information you give at your website <a href="http://www.geocities.com/night_spawn19/evolution.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/night_spawn19/evolution.html</a> This: thermodynamics: the study of heat power; a branch of physics which studies the efficiency of energy transfer and exchange. Has nothing to do with This: It is partially a universal law of decay; the ultimate cause of why everything ultimately falls apart and disintegrates over time. Material things are not eternal. Everything appears to change eventually, and chaos increases. Nothing stays as fresh as the day one buys it; clothing becomes faded, threadbare, and ultimately returns to dust. Fact: Evolution cannot be shown to violate the 2nd law of Thermodynamics (which is a mathematical equation that defines the transfer and distribution of heat energy in a specifically defined closed system).

12-31-2001, 05:13 PM	#6
NiGhT SpAwN Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US Posts: 24	I went to talk.origins and I noticed articles from both sides. Might I add that neither side proves the other wrong or right. I notice, theyeti, that there are creation articles that give better proof than that, that shows how evolution isn't true. My point for starting this thread is to ask a question. Why back up something that can't be proven right

12-31-2001, 05:22 PM	#7
DougI Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Wichita, KS, USA Posts: 932	Maybe you ought to go to your local University's library and read the journal Evolution. Every article is a scientific study which validates evolution. Presenting all the evidence for evolution would fill a couple of libraries.

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