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Old 02-24-2002, 12:31 PM   #1
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I'm reading information <a href="http://www.cryonics.org/" target="_blank">on this site</a> regarding cryonic suspension services. (Warning: it IS an ad... ) I've always read that reviving frozen "patients" will be impossible, but now it doesn't seem so farfetched, to me.

Does anyone here know anything about this? What do you think?
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Its an attractive gamble in any event. Your gonna be dead anyways, might as well choose the venue with the greatest chance of reanimation.
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Forget it if you feel resurrect you , because its pure psuedoscience
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<strong>I'm reading information <a href="http://www.cryonics.org/" target="_blank">on this site</a> regarding cryonic suspension services. (Warning: it IS an ad... ) I've always read that reviving frozen "patients" will be impossible, but now it doesn't seem so farfetched, to me.

Does anyone here know anything about this? What do you think?</strong>
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You should see the size of their popsicle stick,
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It is not accurately described as "pure psuedoscience." It is simply attempting to freeze a body with the minimum of damage and hoping that methods will eventually be developed to repair and reanimate it or extract the relevant information from it. It's a gamble, perhaps even an impossible one, but it's one I'd be willing to take.
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If it's so difficult to reanimate frozen tissue, why is it not difficult to freeze embryos and then thaw them, if a couple decides later to have a child?
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Surely you did not waste your money on that psuedosience?
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<strong>It is not accurately described as "pure psuedoscience." It is simply attempting to freeze a body with the minimum of damage and hoping that methods will eventually be developed to repair and reanimate it or extract the relevant information from it. It's a gamble, perhaps even an impossible one, but it's one I'd be willing to take.</strong>
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It's not necessarily pseudoscience. Perhaps the way they market it is, but we really don't know what the medical capabilities of the future might be, and it offers a better chance than being cremated or buried, if that is important to you!

Reanimating frozen adult tissue is very difficult, because the freezing process creates a lot of damage due to the formation and expansion of ice crystals. But I would not write it off.

What I am not to sure about is who is going to pay for the reanimation?! What economic benefit would there be in reanimating a 3 century old corpse?
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Well.... I've never heard of these guys. The group I'm familiar with is the Alcor Foundation at <a href="http://www.alcor.org." target="_blank">www.alcor.org.</a> Bit more respectible in my opinion... and when I finally scrape together the cash, they're who my contract will most likely be with.

As far as psudeoscience is concerned, this is a fairly common claim. It's also somewhat unfounded. The idea of coming back from the dead may seem magical and religious and unscientific.... but then 150 years ago, starting someone's heart after it had stopped would have seemed the same way. Reviving someone who had drowned? Couldn't happen. The lungs are full of water and nothing else can be done.... Now? We've revived people who have been under for nearly three hours... (as long as it's extremely cold water, and it works best in young children...)
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It is all just a [URL=www.alcor.org]wierd wacky cemetary[URL] nothing more unless they have died of an unkown disease and it may be useful to have it preserved for future scientific research, but if it is purely for some cultish belief they the person may be resurrected then that is pseudoscience and is much closer the religion then science.
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<strong>Well.... I've never heard of these guys. The group I'm familiar with is the Alcor Foundation at <a href="http://www.alcor.org." target="_blank">www.alcor.org.</a> Bit more respectible in my opinion... and when I finally scrape together the cash, they're who my contract will most likely be with.

As far as psudeoscience is concerned, this is a fairly common claim. It's also somewhat unfounded. The idea of coming back from the dead may seem magical and religious and unscientific.... but then 150 years ago, starting someone's heart after it had stopped would have seemed the same way. Reviving someone who had drowned? Couldn't happen. The lungs are full of water and nothing else can be done.... Now? We've revived people who have been under for nearly three hours... (as long as it's extremely cold water, and it works best in young children...)</strong>
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