aa5874

Well, let us see if HJers actually do what you are accusing me of.

Let's see if they substitute rubbish for legitimate arguments.


HJers regard the Holy Ghost conception of Jesus as fiction, nonsense or rubbish, yet still claim Mary is the mother of their Jesus. They are actually using a fiction based , non-sense or rubbish based-story to legitimise the HJ argument.

The HJers argument is that the conception of Jesus is fundamentally fiction or rubbish, but they believe beneath the rubbish, there will be a lot less rubbish or something legitimate called the HJ.

I wish them lots of luck with their rubbish.

mens_sana

I know — but not in vain! Such intransigence occasionally helps me get my thoughts in order. So, whether aa5874 knows it or not, he is giving aid and support to the HJers.

J-D

Even if they do (or even if some of them do), it does not provide any justification for your doing it.Not necessarily.No they aren't.Another inaccurate characterisation.It is, of course, easy for you to win an argument if you get to decide what the other side says. But it is a meaningless victory. Possibly you indulge yourself in this way because you can't argue effectively against what other people actually do say.

aa5874

You are completely wrong. I do not aid HJers or fundamentalists at all. This is a clear example where your thoughts are not in order.

Look, ernestombayo, gets very erractic when people disagrees with him. He uses scare tactics. He talks about people blowing up buses.

I always try to re-assure fundamentalists and HJers that its not worth it to believe Jesus was real, and it seems to be working, less people now believe Jesus was real worldwide.

J-D

And it's all because of you!

mountainman

Eusebius was the highly devoted and paid midwife to the
fiction of the HJ.

Constantine published the (Constantinian) canon.
Arius published some of the non canonical (non Constantinian).
Seriously aa5874, the massiveness of the events to do with
the military supremacist and promoter of christian literary
publications in the fourth century have yet to be be perceived.

Ancient historians of the fourth century have been purposefully
silenced. For example we have no profane historian who is
not at the same time a "christian ecclesiastical historian" writing
during the period of the rule of the Boss (c.307-337 CE).

The christian regime he established covered up the fraud
in the next 100 years. As you may know, I have looked very carefully and systematically at "the evidence" which is at this time on the planet being proffered to substantiate the contemporary hegemon that in fact christians, and christian history, existed before the rise of bullneck.


Best wishes,



Pete

J-D

By whom?

mountainman

Christian bishops and christian emperors for the period 325 to 444 CE - and specifically, if you want names, start with the christian terrorist boss, mafia thug, murderer and tax-exempt author of the highest "christian christologies" the scum bag Cyril of Alexandria, who inherited "the business of tax-exempt bullneck's bullshit" from his Uncle, another murdering mafia boss, christian by rank in the "Constantine Church". If you cant spell Cyril, look in the index of the Catholic Encyclopaedea for the term "The Seal of the Fathers".

Cyril is referred to as "The Seal of the Fathers".

Why?

Because he was the first to commence the practice of refering to the Eusebian literature characters such as Clement, etc as "the fathers". Up until the time of the tax-exempt censor Cyril, the common useage throughout the fourth century for the christians of councils and authors of letters etc, the fathers were in fact "The Nicaean Fathers". The attendees at Nicaea.
The people summoned by The Boss to his military supremacy "meeting" and the "fear of God".

Until Cyril. "The Fathers" were the three hundred and eighteen (the numbers varied) who were assembled at Nicaea. That is why Cyril is known in the high christological terminology as "The Seal of the Fathers".


He was a common censor.
And a very bad person to boot.
But the highest of Christologies.

J-D

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant that people now who are working on fourth-century ancient history are being silenced. But you meant people then. That's different, of course.

Doug Shaver

I've occasionally said that aa5874 argues just like fundamentalists do. Clearly, he is also just as arrogant as the typical fundamentalist.