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Old 12-17-2003, 09:32 PM   #21
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Okay...then why did you say:

GDon: >>>OK<<<

....? You seem to be filled with contradictions.
I was acknowledging you saying that your argument was more logical than theological. If your objection is theological (as I believe it is), then I won't continue. If it is logical, then I will.

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GDon: >>>God (if He exists) is perfect, so everything He does is an expression of His perfection. Thus, if God can round... then doesn't it follow that "rounding" is part of that perfection?
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No. Approximation is not perfection.
Didn't you just say that God (if He exists) could round? If approximation is not perfection, how can God round?
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:35 PM   #22
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I was acknowledging you saying that your argument was more logical than theological. If your objection is theological (as I believe it is), then I won't continue. If it is logical, then I will.
Understood.

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Didn't you just say that God (if He exists) could round? If approximation is not perfection, how can God round?
Could, yes. Would? In the case of his perfect holy book? No.

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Old 12-17-2003, 09:47 PM   #23
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Could, yes. Would? In the case of his perfect holy book? No.

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Aha. As I suspected, it is a theological argument. Case dismissed.
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Aha. As I suspected, it is a theological argument.
No. I despise theology. This is a logical argument having to do with an allegedly perfect god. Approximations are not perfection, since the approximation of pi as 3.14 is better than the approximation of pi as 3 (and the approximation of pi as 3.141 is better than the approximation of pi as 3.14, etc, etc, etc).

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Is that a concession, then? If so, I accept.

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No. I despise theology. This is a logical argument having to do with an allegedly perfect god. Approximations are not perfection, since the approximation of pi as 3.14 is better than the approximation of pi as 3 (and the approximation of pi as 3.141 is better than the approximation of pi as 3.14, etc, etc, etc).
You said that "God can round". How can God round if approximations are not perfect?
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You said that "God can round". How can God round if approximations are not perfect?
Because the bible is supposed to be the perfect word of a perfect god.

Pay attention! Sheesh, I could've had this conversation when I was 7 years old.

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GDon >>>You said that "God can round". How can God round if approximations are not perfect? <<<

Because the bible is supposed to be the perfect word of a perfect god.

Pay attention! Sheesh, I could've had this conversation when I was 7 years old.
Your answer doesn't address my question, which is looking at the logical underpinnings. At this stage, I'm not talking about the Bible.

You said that "God can round". How can God round if approximations are not perfect?
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Your answer doesn't address my question, which is looking at the logical underpinnings. At this stage, I'm not talking about the Bible.
Yes, we most definitely are talking about the bible. He can round in general, but not in the bible. Of course, this contradicts omnipotence, but omnipotence is contradictory anyways (can the xian god create a rock so big that it can't lift it? Can the xian god destroy itself? etc).

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He can round in general, but not in the bible. Of course, this contradicts omnipotence, but omnipotence is contradictory anyways (can the xian god create a rock so big that it can't lift it? Can the xian god destroy itself? etc).
So, God can round in general, but not in the Bible. How does that contradict omnipotence? Do you mean that an omnipotent God shouldn't be able to round in general, or an omnipotent God should be able to round in the Bible?
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How does that contradict omnipotence?
Because it's a restriction on what the xian god can allegedly do, of course!

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