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Old 09-21-2012, 10:15 PM   #61
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An interview with Alin Suciu (in Romanian - Google translation)- http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/stiinta...e-un-fals.html

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Reporter: rely on what they argue that papyrus presented by Karen King is "a modern forgery"?

Alin Suciu: It's more suspicion. First, the document itself, beyond the content, look very suspicious. Definitely not part of a codex (book papyrus), seems rather cut from a larger piece of papyrus.

Form letters is not normal and does not seem to have been copied in antiquity, but in recent years. There is something natural in the way the writing flows of ancient scribe who lacks this document. No ink does not look better. And it seems to be spoofed.
Would be something to say about dating. Karen King said to date from the fourth century, but the problem is that we have no objective methods of Coptic manuscripts date. There Coptic manuscripts dated before the century scribes. Ninth and do not have datable objects found with manuscripts.

We only library at Nag Hammadi , which might to date from the fourth century (though not sure), but his papyrus not look like Karen King.

Reporter: No known method can be used carbon-14 dating?

Alin Suciu: I doubt carbon method can be applied. If they use it would destroy about half of papyrus (to be burned). If this is indeed true (as some claim) would be an enormous loss. I do not think anyone will take that risk. Method can not be applied on a piece of papyrus, we need some more money.

These doubts, plus the related content. Simply check fragment convinced us me and the many colleagues he's a fake. It's funny how many interesting things are closing in a few square centimeters. Most Coptic fragments are frustrating, do not understand what they want to say, because gaps. But this case is clear: it is mentioned mother of Jesus, who gave him life, has a wife (probably as Mary) and live with it.

Reporter: You've had the opportunity to personally investigated fragment?

Alin Suciu: No, I checked photos. We do not know where it is fragmented.

Reporter: But do you think this would have been done recently fake? Around what time?

Alin Suciu: I do not know, but I think that in a time when these issues were present Jesus. In other words, it's very recent. We must recognize that the passage says what many expected to hear. I think that is just a few years, although it may to date from the (19)80s.

Reporter: In any case, we can say that someone who was made ​​well known Coptic language?

Alin Suciu: Sure. Sounds like a fake made ​​by someone who knew something Coptic (the text is not long, only a few words are related) for fun or to start something sensational. From this point of view, the fragment is indeed unique. In general, only fakes mimic Coptic characters, but say nothing, just meaningless letters. It is false to say something first. It is also strange that the owner arrived just in Karen, who was in charge of these things, I refer to Mary Magdalene. Text him coming like a glove, but I was involved in manufacturing fake.

Reporter: You mean that Ms. Karen King has researched and other apocryphal gospels? Believe in the novel hypothesis "Da Vinci Code"?

Alin Suciu : Moreover, studied the relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus, is exactly the subject of her research.

Reporter: This supposed "relationship" appears in the documents discovered outside of it?

Alin Suciu: Yes, the Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Philip , from what I can remember now. However, I do not want to talk bad fellow,'s up everyone eventually chooses what topics or what sources used.

Reporter: Of course. A final queries I have: the apocryphal gospels which tell you now, as I get it remember, do not write clearly that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married, but there are allusions to the subject, right?

Alin Suciu: Exactly. But now there in black and white that Jesus had a wife and that he lived with her. In the Gospel of Philip says that Mary Magdalene was the "companion" of Jesus. Some scholars have said that is not accompanying his wife. The Coptic wife says "hime." This word was missing from the text so far. This new papyrus makes Christ to say "tahime", meaning "my wife." Until now we did not have such evidence, the texts were allusive, as you noted.

That makes many to doubt. A fragment so small, but says so much. Moreover, the last row of text, Jesus says "I live with her ​​because ..." unfortunately do not know why the text is interrupted here. Sin, made ​​us curious! If you allow me a final remark, Christ's marital status was not a problem in the first centuries of Christianity.
Suciu goes on to compare this text to 'the modern fake' Secret Mark. Two out of three ain't bad.
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The more I read these 'doubters' the more the arguments start to resemble those thrown up against Mar Saba 65. I am especially disturbed by Suciu's reluctance to press for testing the ink. I happen to have done a little research on this and it is possible. It seems like the same group of scholars who think that fourth and fifth century Christianity is 'right' oppose what these new discoveries say and therefore declare them fakes.
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James Tabor weighs in.
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