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Old 03-30-2007, 03:51 PM   #311
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They accused themselves, by posting trash.

The record of garbage posts speaks for itself.

And yes, I made complaints periodically, to no avail.



Sure.

In Game Theory, we call it the 'Tit for Tat' strategem.

It guarantees a win for the T4T group against competing organisms in a random confrontation environment.

Its the most successful survival strategy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat


Anatol Rapoport was a true genius.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatol_Rapoport

In fact, when my partner and I disproved Von Neuman's Minimax Theorem, Rapoport was the only person who understood it.
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Anatol Rapoport was a true genius.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatol_Rapoport

In fact, when my partner and I disproved Von Neuman's Minimax Theorem, Rapoport was the only person who understood it.
Where and how have you disproved a theory whose author's name you can't spell correctly?

And speaking of sidetracking the OP ...

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In the hope of getting this thread back on track, I'm reposting a slightly edited version of message I sent earlier which "Nazaroo" has so far refused to deal with. Perhaps this time ...


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I have given you all the evidence that is available.

[snip]

I cannot present more evidence than the manuscripts or their transcripts actually provide. You can take it or leave it.
But you have not given me any evidence whatsoever, leat alone all that is available. All you have "given me" is data (and a selective amount of it at that) and a particular interpretation thereof which you assert, without proof, is true.

When I ask for evidence, I'm asking you to produce something that shows that your interpretation of the data is true or at least worthy of consideration.

And what is that something? It would be the replication of what you say is going on in P 66 -- that is to say, the appearance in any MS of a dot at a place in that MS witnesses to a given text text where we know with certainty that a given pericope belongs but which is absent at the place in that witness where its copyist has placed a dot.

Can you point us to any examples of this?

If you cannot, then you are obliged as the scientist you claim to be to admit that there is no evidence that supports your interpretation and that in the absence of confirmatory evidence, there is no good reason that anyone should accept what you say the dot represents.

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Curiously, while he anglicized Johann to John, he kept the Austrian-aristocratic surname of von Neumann, whereas his brothers adopted surnames Vonneumann and Neumann (using the de Neumann form briefly when first in the US).
There probably is no correct spelling for 'von Neumann'. But the convention has two n's, one of which slipped off in the typing.

My credibility as a typist has suffered severe damage with this.

As far as I am concerned, there is no difference between data and evidence. In this context to me they are synonyms. I see no point in trying to make any distinction whatsoever.

data is evidence, evidence is data. How you interpret it depends upon suppositions, axioms, preconstructs, working hypotheses etc.

I provided evidence/data in the form of photographs/facsimiles of codex Sinaiticus:



And also evidence/data in the form of Tischendorf's observations and actions:



How you interpret this evidence/data is your business.

I have said repeatedly I am not interested in 'proving' anything to anyone, or even convincing them of any particular set of facts or hypotheses.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Nor can you make a donkey into a horse.
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Nor can you make a donkey into a horse.
A fitting adage for your claim about the dot.

But thanks for admitting that when it comes to having anything which shows your claim to be true, you've got nothing.

No doubt it's the same for your claim about disproving Von Neumann's Minimax Theorem. Funny how there's no mention anywhere, so far as I can see, of anyone doing this.

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A fitting adage for your claim about the dot.

But thanks for admitting that when it comes to having anything which shows your claim to be true, you've got nothing.

No doubt it's the same for your claim about disproving Von Neumann's Minimax Theorem. Funny how there's no mention anywhere, so far as I can see, of anyone doing this.

JG

By the way you've misspelled von Neumann. The German 'von' is not capitalized.

If you want to learn about Game Theory start a thread in Science and skepticism.
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I think we could benefit from examining the INTERNAL evidence of the passage in more detail.

To assist this, I am going to use some stills along with the text to help us visualize the scene:


"Does our law judge a man before hearing him,
and finding out what he is doing?"



"Are you also from Galilee?
Search and look! Out of Galilee arises no prophet!"


And at Dawn again He came into the Temple:
and all the people came to Him, and he sat down and taught them.



And the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him
a woman taken in an adultery.


And when they had set her in the midst,



They said to Him, "Teacher:
This woman was taken in the very act, committing adultery!



Now Moses in the Law commanded us that such should be stoned to death:
What then do you say?"


This they said testing Him, that they might have something to accuse Him of.
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But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger.


So they continued pressing Him...


He lifted Himself up,


and said to them,


"He that is without sin among you,
Let him cast the first stone at her."


And again He stooped down


and wrote upon the ground.

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And they that heard, being convicted by conscience,


went out one by one, beginning with the eldest.


And Jesus was left alone, with the woman,


Then Jesus lifted Himself up, and regarded no one but the woman;




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And He said to her, "Woman, where are your accusers?
Has no man condemned you?"




And she said, "No one, Sir."


And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I judge you:
Go, and do not sin again."








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