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Old 04-28-2013, 04:37 PM   #171
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You seem to 'appeal to tradition' or 'appeal to origins' (the genetic fallacy).

History cannot refuse history, only a false or jaundiced view of history can do that.

History can apply to traditions whether they be traditions of a culture or history of development and maintenance of a culture.
That’s right “History cannot refuse history, only a false or jaundiced view of history can do that.”
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:48 PM   #172
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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

In order to avoid reifying a construct,

I'd like to rephrase this as: There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

Is that OK, Mary?
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It's not OK to attempt to rephrase the title of my OP :huh:
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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

In order to avoid reifying a construct,

I'd like to rephrase this as: There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

Is that OK, Mary?
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It's not OK to attempt to rephrase the title of my OP :huh:
I do not have the power or the desire to ACTUALLY change the title of your OP, nor was I attempting to do so.
I just wanted to know if there was an equivalent statement to:

“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

such as

There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

in order to make your thoughts more clear (and to avoid reifying a construct).
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:27 PM   #174
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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

In order to avoid reifying a construct,

I'd like to rephrase this as: There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

Is that OK, Mary?
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It's not OK to attempt to rephrase the title of my OP :huh:
I do not have the power or the desire to ACTUALLY change the title of your OP, nor was I attempting to do so.
I just wanted to know if there was an equivalent statement to:

It's the idea that you would want to change the title of my OP - that got my response.....

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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

such as

There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

in order to make your thoughts more clear (and to avoid reifying a construct).
Onias
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The title of the OP - was my choice....

If you want to start a thread on your own suggestion for an OP title - please do so....
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:34 PM   #175
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I do not have the power or the desire to ACTUALLY change the title of your OP, nor was I attempting to do so.
I just wanted to know if there was an equivalent statement to:

It's the idea that you would want to change the title of my OP - that got my response.....

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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

such as

There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

in order to make your thoughts more clear (and to avoid reifying a construct).
Onias
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The title of the OP - was my choice....

If you want to start a thread on your own suggestion for an OP title - please do so....
OK, but please answer my question as I was attempting to understand what you were saying in your OP. I will ask again.

Do you think there is no evidence for an Historic Jesus figure?
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I do not have the power or the desire to ACTUALLY change the title of your OP, nor was I attempting to do so.
I just wanted to know if there was an equivalent statement to:

It's the idea that you would want to change the title of my OP - that got my response.....

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“History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

such as

There is no evidence for an Historical Jesus Figure.

in order to make your thoughts more clear (and to avoid reifying a construct).
Onias
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The title of the OP - was my choice....

If you want to start a thread on your own suggestion for an OP title - please do so....
OK, but please answer my question as I was attempting to understand what you were saying in your OP. I will ask again.

Do you think there is no evidence for an Historic Jesus figure?
I've not come across any evidence that the gospel figure of JC was a historical figure.
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OK, but do you think the fictional Jesus might have been derived from an historical figure. . . like Santa Claus was derived from the historical Saint Nicholas?
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OK, but do you think the fictional Jesus might have been derived from an historical figure. . . like Santa Claus was derived from the historical Saint Nicholas?
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Check out the OP chart......
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OK, but do you think the fictional Jesus might have been derived from an historical figure. . . like Santa Claus was derived from the historical Saint Nicholas?
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Check out the OP chart......
I have checked out the chart many times, but I am asking you for your opinions based on the chart. I am asking that you make a declarative statement.

Do you think the fictional Jesus might have been derived from an historical figure (on your chart)?

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Check out the OP chart......
I have checked out the chart many times, but I am asking you for your opinions based on the chart. I am asking that you make a declarative statement.

Do you think the fictional Jesus might have been derived from an historical figure (on your chart)?

Onias

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The composite gospel Jesus figure based upon the historical figures of the last King and High Priest of the Jews, Antigonus; and Philip the Tetrarch.
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