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aeebee50 · 10-18-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by yalla

Tell him to migrate to Australia, we have 'communist' style national health here, have had for decades.
Just to give you an idea of how it works, we pay for it out of our taxes [at a far lower rate than per cpita cost in the US] and then go hospital as we need to.
For example I had major surgery a few years ago that cost me nothing. Not a cent.
My daughter had her daughter at a public hospital, all mod cons, not a cent.
Australians shake their heads in disbelief when we hear about all the fuss and bother over public health in the US.

Lives in Australia must be more valuable than in the U.S. This is the first good I have heard about communism. Interesting. It has to be credited to the leaders.

Sheshbazzar · 10-18-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tanya

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Originally Posted by Toto

Shingles is not minor. The drugs that treat it cost money, and takes a few weeks out of your life at the least.

Pox virus
Based on my own personal experience, x3, I would disagree. It is very painful, but I survived without requirement for any medication.

I think the notion that he needs money to treat this disease is inaccurate. He may indeed need funds, who doesn't?

Every case is not the same, nor affects the same body parts in the same manner.
When my father came down with shingles, he really came down, it located in one of his legs and practically paralyzed him. Neighbors found him in extreme pain attempting to drag himself out to the street.

We had to move him from his home of some 40 years and give him full time assisted care in our home for the next 2 years. His leg shriveled up like he had polio. He finally made a full recovery but it took years, and certainly was no walk in the park.

I had my bout with shingles 12 years ago, nothing more than a severe backache (which I thought was simply back strain from the heavy construction work I was doing at the time) and an itchy rash around my belt-line, worked right on through the week and didn't take time off to go to the doctor until Friday night to get checked out, and by Monday morning I was pretty much over it.

Americas rip-off health care system is a public shame. I have always been blessed with good employer provided health insurance coverage, not so my less fortunate extended family, some of whom I have seen suffer for decades with medical problems that they simply could not afford to have treated.
A daily life of needless suffering, that takes its toll on every aspect of their living, and left untreated has often led to more severe health problems.

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xaxxat · 10-18-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aeebee50

Lives in Australia must be more valuable than in the U.S. This is the first good I have heard about communism. Interesting. It has to be credited to the leaders.

Communism???

sotto voce · 10-18-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aeebee50

Lives in Australia must be more valuable than in the U.S. This is the first good I have heard about communism. Interesting. It has to be credited to the leaders.

Communism???

In the USA, treating humans with humanity is known as communism. Any success achieved by humans in being treated with humanity is credited to leaders only.

No Robots · 10-18-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by proudfootz

Perhaps he should stick to his principles and simply go out in the street to die since he can't afford to pay for his own healthcare...

And thus the evolutionary fascist left devours its parents.

sotto voce · 10-18-2012, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

I find difficult not to reference the irony of Bob's voting preferences.

But a Christian atheist is as anomalous as a Jesuit atheist, is it not? What's so strange?

proudfootz · 10-18-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by proudfootz

Perhaps he should stick to his principles and simply go out in the street to die since he can't afford to pay for his own healthcare...

And thus the evolutionary fascist left devours its parents.

I guess I don't see where being a right-winger makes one a 'leftist'...

Splarnst · 10-18-2012, 06:55 AM

I didn't know anything about Price's politics until they were implied in this thread.

No Robots · 10-18-2012, 07:48 AM

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I guess I don't see where being a right-winger makes one a 'leftist'...

Being a right-winger makes him <edit>

yalla · 10-18-2012, 08:17 AM

My mention of our Australian 'communist' public health system was a tongue in cheek somewhat snide comment I'm sorry to admit.
Having lived in the US I am amazed at the recent furore over a publicly funded health system such as the UK one and that which we have here and which, despite some problems, is regarded by most as an essential and extremely valuable component of a civilized country. Oops I did it again.
Sorry.
And sorry to Robert Price. I hope he gets well. A mate of mine was severly ill with shingles recently, it aint a joke.

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10-18-2012, 06:55 AM	#18
Splarnst Contributor Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 13,161	I didn't know anything about Price's politics until they were implied in this thread.

10-18-2012, 08:17 AM	#20
yalla Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: oz Posts: 1,848	My mention of our Australian 'communist' public health system was a tongue in cheek somewhat snide comment I'm sorry to admit. Having lived in the US I am amazed at the recent furore over a publicly funded health system such as the UK one and that which we have here and which, despite some problems, is regarded by most as an essential and extremely valuable component of a civilized country. Oops I did it again. Sorry. And sorry to Robert Price. I hope he gets well. A mate of mine was severly ill with shingles recently, it aint a joke.

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