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Chili · 11-30-2012, 08:59 PM

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I don't understand the surprise. Are there people who actually believe there is absolutely no connection with reality in this 'myth' concept?
So no Jesus, no crucifixion, no apostles, no Church, no nothing - just a 'myth'? No shit? Really?

Yes. No shit. Really.

Well I do allow that the 'church' arrived on the scene around a hundred years latter.

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Really? How can it be then that Catholics have been piling saints in heaven now already for 2000 years? OK right, 1900 years.

Sheshbazzar · 11-30-2012, 09:06 PM

Hey Chil, notice I just gave ya another 40

Chili · 11-30-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Hey Chil, notice I just gave ya another 40

Funny,

I always have a problem with calling it fiction and do understand that fiction is not fantasy. But is there ever a time that reality is beyond fiction?

Sheshbazzar · 11-30-2012, 09:38 PM

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But is there ever a time that reality is beyond fiction?

'Time, times, and an half '

1 + 2 + .5 = 3.5 or 'three and a half'. How many halfs? Which half is bigger?

5 digits on the right hand, and 5 digits on the left hand; What is reality?
And who can measure it?

Yodea eth ha'elohim

outhouse · 11-30-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

I don't understand the surprise. Are there people who actually believe there is absolutely no connection with reality in this 'myth' concept?
So no Jesus, no crucifixion, no apostles, no Church, no nothing - just a 'myth'? No shit? Really?

Yes. No shit. Really. No Jesus. No crucifixion. No apostles.

I do allow that the 'church' arrived on the scene around sixty years latter and began cooking up a lot of shit in an attempt to legitimatize itself.

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so after the fall of the temple christianity invented itself?

we know jesus is a mythical name for Joshua/Yehoshua

but doesnt that leave paul to be addressed?

outhouse · 11-30-2012, 09:41 PM

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Apparently, Salm beleives that John the Baptist was the 'real Jesus.'

What's up with that?

lack of education and knowledge on the subject

Sheshbazzar · 11-30-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

I don't understand the surprise. Are there people who actually believe there is absolutely no connection with reality in this 'myth' concept?
So no Jesus, no crucifixion, no apostles, no Church, no nothing - just a 'myth'? No shit? Really?

Yes. No shit. Really. No Jesus. No crucifixion. No apostles.

I do allow that the 'church' arrived on the scene around sixty years latter and began cooking up a lot of shit in an attempt to legitimatize itself.

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so after the fall of the temple christianity invented itself?

we know jesus is a mythical name for Joshua/Yehoshua

but doesnt that leave paul to be addressed?

Takes -time- to figure

it out. Who is able to fathom the deep things?

Guess I'll just have to address Paul;

Hey hey Paul,
How deep did you say that water was again??? Well over their heads, No? :hysterical:
Think they will ever 'get' it?

Sheshbazzar

outhouse · 11-30-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by outhouse

so after the fall of the temple christianity invented itself?

we know jesus is a mythical name for Joshua/Yehoshua

but doesnt that leave paul to be addressed?

Takes -time- to figure

it out.

it doesnt take the passover murder of a peasant jew by pilate, causing trouble out of the equation.

to many witnesses spawned the legends in judaism and roman/gentiles all at once, to be tucked away in straight up 100% mythology

Sheshbazzar · 11-30-2012, 10:23 PM

Do you know what propaganda is? And how, and for what purposes propaganda is employed?

The Bible writers were very skilled. and also very skilled at manipulating, and at talking over the heads of their adversaries.

When you interpret these religious propaganda texts literally, you are missing the clues.

outhouse · 11-30-2012, 10:44 PM

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Do you know what propaganda is? And how, and for what purposes propaganda is employed?

The Bible writers were very skilled. and also very skilled at manipulating, and at talking over the heads of their adversaries.

When you interpret these religious propaganda texts literally, you are missing the clues.

I have never read then literally

one only has to read a few lines of Gmark to know they didnt know the detail they claim in reconstructing their view

but propaganda would easily have found a better man to deify then a poverty stricken tax dodging Galilean jew traveling teacher. we also see the unknown authors trying to make excuses to deal with what the have to work with

authors trying to soften paul up even.

noty everything here is a conspiracy, and theres no need to hide or make up stuff, we see a normal man deified is all.

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Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	Do you know what propaganda is? And how, and for what purposes propaganda is employed? The Bible writers were very skilled. and also very skilled at manipulating, and at talking over the heads of their adversaries. When you interpret these religious propaganda texts literally, you are missing the clues.

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