sotto voce

In any century.

'The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.' Ro 8:19 NIV Paul of Tarsus, 55-58 CE.

mountainman

The monumental evidence of the many basilicas, epigraphic sources, manuscripts, and evidence in many other forms represent adequate affadivits from the 4th century following Nicaea. Therefore Christians (and heretics) of some type existed after Nicaea. The question is did they exist any earlier.



Paul of Tarsus baptizes a talking lion in the wilderness and is SAVED by the same lion in the amphitheatre when thrown to the lions. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Someone Christianized Aesop's "The Lion and the Mouse", by painting Paul as a mouse. What were the canon followers to do about these pesky non canonical narratives?

Christian demographics before the 4th century as we have seen are conjecturally based (via Snyder e.g.) upon the extrapolation of data from Acts. We now have a method to determine exactly how many hobbits lived in the shire. Welcome to the year 2012.

Replicating Fiftyfold the One True Bullneck Bible

One Book to rule them all, One Book to find them,
One Book to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

sotto voce

Monuments do not exhibit any of the following. Kindness. Compassion. Patience. Concord. Self-control. Humility. Joyfulness. Generosity. Peaceability. Reliability.

Certainly not reliability.

'The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.' Letter to Romans 8:19 NIV Paul of Tarsus, 55-58 CE.

When mere heaps of rock are cited as evidence for 'precious stones', rock-like persons, one can be rock sure that Christianity is the monumental truth.

spin

What is this, a wishlist of cliches from an adherent of an ancient religion who has an excessive interest in buggery?

Funny isn't it, that you especially pick on reliability as not exhibited by monuments. As evidence, which your little reverie swerved away from, monuments far exceed literary records in their reliability.

This is where we get the inevitable sorry lack of heart from the sad novice tele-evangelist, who is so driven by the burden of religious bullshit that he takes any opportunity to sell his product at a good commission of absolved conscience.

When a person comes to a forum their participation is expected. Your presence here is that of a cuckoo in a nest you don't belong in. You've given no sign of understanding the notion of being a part of the forum. It's just a situation for you to exploit. It is not a kindness on your part. There is no compassion. You are not in concord with what happens here. You show no self-control. No humility. You just open your beak to get fed.

I see nothing constructive in your intrusive proselytism. You seem to be trying to fit in here like a pork vendor at a Bar-Mitzva. I do wish you would try harder to be a part of the community here.

sotto voce

Got that, lads? Buggery is wrong. Behave yourselves.

Drat! The submarine wreck has pinched my word. He saw it coming, of course.

spin

Getting all winky doesn't absolve the nasty and the proselytizy.

sotto voce

Absolve? Homosexuality ban, Easter, now priesthood. What next? Papacy?

spin

This romp through your predilections isn't entertaining for anyone other than yourself. Still the cuckoo in the nest.

Sheshbazzar

If and when they ever show up, about the only thing certain is that they will know better than to associate themseves with the name of the most murderous religion that ever infected mankind.
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Not a chance.

At least mere heaps of inert rocks and monuments have never taken up swords and waged a centuries long reign of terror, torture, murder, and extortion to propogate lying and ridiculous religious claims as your X-insanity has.

aa5874

Again, C 14 dating does NOT eliminate the claim that the Jesus story was known before the 4th century.

You presented gJudas as a manuscript that was dated by C14 but the time period for gJudas extends down to the 1st half of the 3rd century--c 220 CE.