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Old 12-03-2012, 12:35 PM   #51
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Russell was a step up on Dawkins, in one sense. He did not, afaik, deliberately ignore theistic evolution for a decade or so, as Dawkins did. Dawkins now admits that YECism is not necessary to theism, and indeed has pronounced himself agnostic. Credit where it is due; but nobody can say that Dawkins behaved with honour in that period.
I don't think that Dawkins ever claimed that YECism was necessary for general theism.
Then what was his purpose, mocking YECism every time he stood up?

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World War I - the Christian armies
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He did not have to invent the story of murdering Catholics, now did he?
Certainly not— ask a Protestant! Of course, murderous Catholics are not novelty. Catholicism is premised on murder, or its threat, as you are aware, and as is logically necessary, anyway. But baptising, then immediately murderous Catholics are novelty. So why would the scion of a family that had remained close to power and wealth since they passed from the grasp of Catholics invent such a tale, as, it would appear, this one did?

The idea of Romanism is to hold the believer in a state of dependency on priests, so that the greed of the people who exploit the labour of the believer, who also effectively employ the priests, is fed. So there does not seem to be any point in killing off those who are to keep one in creature comforts. But a story that tended to suggest that priests and their affluent associates were uninterested in pelf would appeal to them, as good propaganda. So a story of this type could have suited Russell's purpose. In the absence of any alternative explanation, this seems to me to be the only reasonable one.
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