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01-29-2005, 04:30 AM | #11 |
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Wellllllll....
If Christ is the "son of God" rather than explicitely the "Son of Yahweh"... Christ is the son of El. Yahweh is the son of El. Christ = Yahweh. Allah = El. Therefore... Christ/Yahweh is the son of Allah. So where does the Holy Spirit fit into this? Get him sorted as well and we might actually get a coherent explanation of what the trinity is supposed to mean... |
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Where does that dude fit into the above? |
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here's a picture of El,
http://www.mystae.com/restricted/str...ra/canaan.html Here's a picture of "RAMBO JESUS" winning the war in Iraq with a machine gun: http://www.geocities.com/dorpdawgg/jesus.htm so I'm rooting for Christ and El. ...everytime someone tried to capture a picture of Yahweh or Allah, these two start acting like Sean Penn does with the paparazzi ..."destroy all idol makers, destroy all idol makers!'".. ...I mean really, in the modern world, we really need some nice pictures for you to be on the official "ONE TRUE GOD" bubble gum trading card series... :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy |
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Dear Sheshbazzar, are you Jewish?
I think Christ is of the truth - I think Christ is truth. He said that he and his father are one. I think those of his day didn't understand Yahweh in the least, and I think only Christ was the one who pleased God. I think the OT is the law of sin and death and violence, and that Christ is of peace - saying we should love our enemies. So - even if Jesus is a lie an imposter, which he most certainly isn't in my belief - then I'm for him anyway - as he doesn't support violence and sounds infinitely more God-like, in his peaceful words. I'd much rather live with Jesus - than live under the old law - where I'd be stoned and burnt for having a wank. |
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Jesus never came to change the old Law, he had stated that he came "fulfill the law", and Jesus was contradictory atleast from new testament scriptures as to whether or not he believed in peace... AND IN THIS CORNER: RAMBO JESUS: "I HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD" AND IN THIS CORNER : YAHWEH I am an angry and jealous God: :angry: AND IN THIS CORNER: ALLAH (El is ALLAH????) KILL ALL INFIDELS! |
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From this post and many others, I accept and acknowledge you as a fellow believer, and I bless and encourage your efforts at defending and contending "for the Faith, once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 3) No, beloved of Yah, I am not "Jewish", and I have never so much as set a foot in any "Jewish" synagogue, although I admit that I have met a few "Jews" in my lifetime. I am an American of fifth generation Dutch decent, and have lived in the mid-Michigan area my entire life, and from childhood attended and was schooled in the teachings of a variety of Protestant denominations. So now, "What makes me to differ?" Being raised as devout person, and an avid Bible student, with a genuine interest in what the WORD had to say, there came a day when YAH chose to bestow His mercy upon me, by one of His messengers, whom when I heard, I believed. First, a 'different' Name, which I had not known, and a doctrine, which I had not "heard", though it had been there all of my life. The Father of lights, gave us a good commandment, to keep us in the Way; "You shall surely put a difference between the clean, and the unclean, and between the sacred and the profane." (be careful what you 'swallow') Lev.10:10 He taught me to put a difference between common titles and His Holy Name, He taught me to put a difference between the pagan titles and terms, and to sanctify His words, and keep them pure from the pollutions of idoltry, as His people Israel had not, and as 'the nations' now, still do not; There is a fundamental difference between the term "Christ" which had its origins in the darkness of paganism, and the term "messiah" which we learn from the Word of YAH. One designates this, and another designates that; Moreover the pagan word 'christ' is associated with the sprinkling of water or of blood in the pagan cult religions, while the correct term 'messiah' means to be anointed with the OIL. And ultimately, the distinction falls out into two differing groups of NT believers, the so called "Christians", (which we are also, mistakenly, often called) and us who hold fast His TRUE Name, and contest every perversion of the actual words used in Scriptures. So speaking to you as one concerned for your welfare, After you set yourself to obey "the First and Great commandment,..and the Second".... There remains yet a Third Commandment that alone sanctifies these first two; "Put a difference between the sacred (set apart) and the profane (common)" Do these, and the Mercy of 'YAH the Saviour' (YAH'SHUA) preserve you evermore, Amen. I nor my brethren live not under the old law, but under The Messiah, YAHshua, the son of YAHweh, for under the old law we all die, This is why father Moses after he gave that Law, permitted no circumcision for the next 40 years of his leadership, for if circumcised, they whom YAHWEH through him had promised to deliver, would have indeed died under the "curse of the law", but he restrained every hand until YAH'shua the son of Nun (meaning "YAH's Salvation born of grace") brought them alive into the Promised Land. May YAH Yahshua give to you knowledge and understanding. Matt. 12:37 Hal'el'lu-YAH, Ameth v'Amen. -Zerubabble- |
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Yah is nothing more than the "father sky"...akin to Jupiter --darkness of Paganism. weh is nothing more than "mother earth" also coming from the darkness of Jewish Paganism... Judaism is no less "pagan" than any other ancient religion...Yah is a separate God from Weh...Weh in fact is the mother Goddess. |
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I am not about to stop saying nor writing the ancient and honorable word Amen, Because I have personally devoted hundreds of hours investigating its origins and usage, both in the Scriptures and in Egyptian culture, and have even written articals and given public lectures on the subject of its sacred nature, are you sure you REALLY want to go head to head with me on this subject? As for the rest, surmise what you will, imagine what you will, but that does not constitute good scholarship. |
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You fell into one of the first traps of the 'worldly version' of the New Testament, in using the Greek word "christ" as a proper personal name for the 'Son of Man', whom we both agree "was the only one who pleased" The Father. A peculiarity of the Greek, the Latin, the Aramaic, and the Hebrew copies of 'The New Testament' is that each one always prefixes the term 'christ' with the direct object indicator "the", thus in each of these languages it is either "the christ" (ho' kristos,-Greek.) or "the messiah" (ha'meshe'kha,-Hebrew) but it is understood that behind the Greek word stands the original Hebrew word that is rendered into the English as "messiah". If you are honest, then uncapitalize the substitute word, and restore the direct object indicator "The" to the text, if you are even more honest, restore the correct term "The Messiah" to your text. The hope and the prayers of the honest believers, was not for the coming of a Greek "christ", but for the coming of "THE MESSIAH" of the Hebrews, of whom even the Gentiles had heard of and also hoped in. But the shame now lies in how "Christianity" has for two thousand years committed its atrocities in the substitute names that they have fabricated, and used to decieve unwary and unlearned men. -Zerubabble- |
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