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Then I can ask the same question I ask about the First Apology of Justin. Here too we find a description of an alleged sect written by a Jew who does not identify the communities, leaders, teachers, etc. of the Therapeutae, and is the same writer as the one who talks about the Logos.
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And jesus sect didnt even flourish in Galilee where he was located and traveled. It was a failed movement in judaism it only flourished after his death in the the roman communities. you cant tie any part of jesus or the early jewish sect to Alexandria in any way shape or form |
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According to Philo, the Therapeutae were widely distributed in the Ancient world, among the Greeks and beyond in the non-Greek world of the "Barbarians", with one of their major gathering points being in Alexandria, in the area of the Lake Mareotis: "Now this class of persons may be met with in many places, for it was fitting that both Greece and the country of the barbarians should partake of whatever is perfectly good; and there is the greatest number of such men in Egypt, in every one of the districts, or nomes, as they are called, and especially around Alexandria; and from all quarters those who are the best of these therapeutae proceed on their pilgrimage to some most suitable place as if it were their country, which is beyond the Maereotic lake." —Philo, Ascetics III[3] What does the phrase "widely distributed in the Ancient world" mean? |
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I invite you to read Suetonius "Lives of the Twelve Caesars" and the Four Canonised Gospels. Virtually EVERYTHING in the Gospels about Jesus is TOTAL Fiction or Implausible. The Jesus stories are Myth Fables about the Resurrected Son of a God. Tiberius the Emperor of Rome a contemporary of the supposed Jesus is found in "the Lives of the Twelve Caesars". See http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...Tiberius*.html Life of Tiberius Quote:
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it doesnt say anything about a poor poverty stricken jewish Galilean teacher/healer who ONLY travels Galilee and to the temple where he is put to death. we know by pauls writing, details that do not fit in with your peronal account. Lived in Nazareth, traveled Galilee has nothing to do with Alexandria your talking about a sect in 30 CE that was larger then the jesus movement strickly in judaism that started in Galilee with heavy zealot influences, after teachings by John the Baptist. Your trying to create something that has no historicity at all, and no backing at all to try and tie in Philos writings |
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now your mission is to tie it into a Galilean version, can you? No you cannot. jesus sect was so small it failed early on in judaism and was never widspread in judaism it failed in judaism and in fact was not widespread. there were 4 main sects of judaism with many subsects and as far as jesus sect based on cultural anthropology we know based on biblical sources he was a poor poverty stricken jew who lived a life below that of a peasant in Galilee and never traveled to Alexandria. jesus is said to have started a sect based on JtB teachings yet no mention of your sect is ever noted? do you fail again? you have absoluteley nothing to tie jesus to your subsect in any way shape or form |
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So you have a priori grounds for discounting Philo's Jewish healers in Galilee. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. I guess you're on stage 2 now. Before I start replying what evidence do you have that can esbalish these statements |
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