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Old 02-18-2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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So how many graves,bones,shrines have been discovered of the bible characters,especially those like david,daniel,abraham,noah,moses,goliath,mary,josep h,jon the baptist etc.Just curious.
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It's real easy: Zilch, nada, none. There are a few items/archeological sites that suggest there was a King David, but that's about the oldest. Note: none of the few items offer enough information to demostrate any scale of the Kings power/wealth.
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It's real easy: Zilch, nada, none. There are a few items/archeological sites that suggest there was a King David, but that's about the oldest. Note: none of the few items offer enough information to demostrate any scale of the Kings power/wealth.
Are you serious? God zapped these out of existence too? Damn.
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It's real easy: Zilch, nada, none. There are a few items/archeological sites that suggest there was a King David, but that's about the oldest. Note: none of the few items offer enough information to demostrate any scale of the Kings power/wealth.
Are you serious? God zapped these out of existence too? Damn.
Quite.

David: If he was as powerful as the Bible claims, then there sure is allot of archeological information that has fallen away, which isn’t very likely, but still possible.
Daniel: He wasn’t a king, so he could disappear in history, especially since Israel was pretty unstable then.
Abraham: He was only written about ages later by the purported Moses, and was effectively a nobody, but for his God.
Noah: This whole thing with the Deluge and such is invisible, so it’s no surprise there is nothing of the purported man.
Moses: The whole Exodus is virtually invisible, never mind the purported leader of it. Christians can’t even agree on when to date the Exodus, or under what Egyptian King they left under. It fits no Egyptian history either. They have to tie vague shards of information to weave a possible tale…
Goliath: I can’t remember his ending at the moment, but in reality a minor purported person, who again could easily disappear in history.
Mary, Joseph, John the Baptist: It is not unreasonable that these people would disappear in the dust bin of history.
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And none of the writings found in the surrounding countries, mention any great kingdom of Israel. So figure.
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Wait a minute. What about Adam?

The whole doctrine of Original Sin rests on Adam and Eve.

That's the "problem statement" of the whole thing.

Habermas and the like love to talk about the evidence for the resurrection. What about The Fall? Otherwise, we have a solution looking for a problem.
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Why is it only Christianity that talks about these two First Humans from which EVERYONE else is descended?

Why aren't they mentioned in EVERY faith system in the World?
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Why is it only Christianity that talks about these two First Humans from which EVERYONE else is descended?

Why aren't they mentioned in EVERY faith system in the World?
Thats a good point! Hey didn't we find Eve,her real name was Lucy.
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Do you mean Lucy (Australopithecus)?
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...Lucy was only 1.1 m (3 feet 8 inches) tall, weighed 29 kilograms (65 lb) and looked somewhat like a Common Chimpanzee, but although the creature had a small brain, the pelvis and leg bones were almost identical in function with those of modern humans, showing with certainty that these hominids had walked erect.[10]

Johanson and his colleague Tim White, a Californian born paleoanthropologist, placed Australopithecus afarensis as the last ancestor common to humans and chimpanzees living from 3.9 to 3 million years ago...
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I am going to give this one some air time in BC&H (with a permanent redirect.) If the discussion drifts into GRD territory, please send it back.
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