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Old 07-27-2011, 05:29 AM   #551
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This assumes a person can have a conversation with a dead person... Dead, by definition would show that any conversation would be decidedly one-sided.
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Stick that in your purview and smoke it. :Cheeky:
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:33 AM   #552
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Assumes facts not in evidence.
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The facts to be presented were the Bible's treatment of what seemed to be two contradictory doctrines.
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What you presented was YOUR treatment/eisegesis of clear contradictions of said bible.
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The Bible's treatment of these two doctrines are here presented, and this treatment constitutes the proven facts in evidence.
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Doctrines are not facts and they are far from ever proven.


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Show that this is not the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines, which treatment constitutes the proven facts in evidence.
The mere fact that there are scholars who would use the same bible and come up with other conclusions is sufficient. Your eisegesis is apparently a significant boost to your self image.

Simon, you have your heavenly reward. You are a good little servant of the custodians. Why don't you let the damned burn in hell in peace?
Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:59 AM   #553
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What you presented was YOUR treatment/eisegesis of clear contradictions of said bible.
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Doctrines are not facts and they are far from ever proven.


The mere fact that there are scholars who would use the same bible and come up with other conclusions is sufficient. Your eisegesis is apparently a significant boost to your self image.

Simon, you have your heavenly reward. You are a good little servant of the custodians. Why don't you let the damned burn in hell in peace?
Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
you're argument is unconvincing to me, but I have neither the time or the patience to refute you in detail. You can have your bible doctrines and believe them all you want. If they make you feel good then great. I don't really care.

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Maybe if I get some sleep and feel up to it later I'll walk through with you where I think you are wrong, but seeing that I had too much caffeine yesterday and did not get much sleep last night you'll have to excuse me for my lack of interest.
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This assumes a person can have a conversation with a dead person... Dead, by definition would show that any conversation would be decidedly one-sided.
1 Samuel 28

PWNED!!

Stick that in your purview and smoke it. :Cheeky:
(Realize it was a joke, but an interesting bit of that chapter)

verse 15: 'Then Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” ...'

Samuel was brought up? Is the implication that he was in hell or that he was peacefully just sleeping? Since this thread is about Logical Inconsistency it seems you have referenced an OT view that there wasn't really an afterlife, in contrast with the notions of the NT.
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Oh great and powerful Yahweh: If your heaven is full of apologists, theologians and otherwise smug biblebots, please send me to hell.
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Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
Show that it is the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
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Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
Show that it is the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
Demonstrated here.

Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines.
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Show that it is the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
Demonstrated here.

Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines.
I'm sorry you find that "demonstration" convincing.
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Show that it is the Bible's treatment of these two doctrines.

Absent your demonstration, your assertions are groundless.
Demonstrated here.

Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines.
I'm sorry you find that "demonstration" convincing.
"Convincing" is a subjective personal matter.

That it is accurate regarding the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines is an objective factual matter.

Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines.
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I'm sorry you find that "demonstration" convincing.
"Convincing" is a subjective personal matter.
Prove that assertion otherwise I'm still unconvinced. No links please... Just some logic in a thoughtful response.
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That it is accurate regarding the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines is an objective factual matter.
first, the bible doesn't "treat" doctrines. Doctrines are derivative units of belief that are carefully constructed to support larger belief structures called "systematic theologies". They are artificial constructs.
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Show that it is not the Bible's treatment of the two doctrines.
all I need to do is state the obvious fact that there are competing belief structures that are derived from from the same source, in this case the bible. No more need be said. If you are expecting me to pull out chapter and verse to counter your belief structure that is an exercise in futility as evidence by the many thousand different Christian theologies. I don't care about such areguments because it is ultimately like spitting in the wind. In other words, I don't have a pony in that show.
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