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Old 02-24-2005, 09:02 AM   #11
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I despise jesus, but still his tortured misguided death breaks me up as well. I don't like to see anyone brought to such circumstances.
Yes, you and around two billion others, sad that he actually reveals otherwise.

Isn't it convenient for the NT that jesus has a selective memory.
actually many of the "Jews for Jesus" site actually lists the similarities in Jesus and the Old Testament messiah...I am not a christian, but I do think Christ understood the Torah better than most since his spiritual practice seemed to be quite fruitful...true understanding of religious scriptures is determined by the success of your spiritual practice, not by bookish knowledge alone.

Jesus was a man who was quite successful in his spiritual practice...nothing more, nothing less...just because you might despise Michael Jackson, doesn't take away from the fact that Michael Jackson was an accomplished entertainer, followed by millions...
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An evangical Christian group which took particular exception to Jerry Springer, the Opera has made its feelings known in so uncertain manner.
The cast of the show - David Soul plays Springer - wanted to give all the takings from a performance for which they would not be paid, to a Scottish cancer charity. But under pressure from Christian Voice, which said the donation would put off Christian donors, who, it suggested, are well-known for their generorsity, the charity said "no thank you."
See http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=jerr...ab=nn&oi=newsr
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actually many of the "Jews for Jesus" site actually lists the similarities in Jesus and the Old Testament messiah...I am not a christian, but I do think Christ understood the Torah better than most since his spiritual practice seemed to be quite fruitful...true understanding of religious scriptures is determined by the success of your spiritual practice, not by bookish knowledge alone.

Jesus was a man who was quite successful in his spiritual practice...nothing more, nothing less...just because you might despise Michael Jackson, doesn't take away from the fact that Michael Jackson was an accomplished entertainer, followed by millions...
The story of jesus is a poorly put together script. The character of jesus could have never existed in real life, but the impact he does make from being a part of fiction is not so much about the NT as it has to do with the NT's 'fans' and the 'fans' of this supposed jesus.

J4J's are just more from the 'fanbase', if they really understood Judaism, there would not be such an organization.

This thread has already been discussing much of why christianity is so popular. A lot of it has to do with standard human nature. How popular something is with people is not an automatic judgement of that exact thing's actual value. In other words, "if everyone wanted to jump in a lake, does that mean everyone should?'

Michael Jackson is popular, that is understood, but being 'an accomplished entertainer', is an opinion. Jackson's recent trial could be later used in somewhat the same way as jesus' trial was used.
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I'm sorry, was there any verse in the bible which went, "Yea, verily, all the people of the earth shall feel the same way as thou dost about thy religion, and even if they be vile enough to differ in opinion from thou, they shalt shut the hell up lest they maketh thou weep?"
>>shakes head slowly back and forth and smiles knowingly to self, sighs, then chuckles<<

It's in the Bible Codes, my dear, the Bible Codes.....:angel:

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As to the OP, I would add that it seems a certain portion of the population is also highly suggestible and prone to mass hysteria and drama of the most irrational sorts.

The best example is how many, many, people don't make a real qualitative distinction between what they wished was true---and what appears to be true. I've had conversations where they as much as say that they think that because something would please them to be true, it is thusly true, because they choose to believe it is. Weird. Anyhoo, this is an extension of that.

What absolutely astounds me is how many fully grown [physically] adults adhere to these types of thinking, and from a wide range of the population. I mean I might have done that when I was between 1-13, but certainly not as a chronological adult!
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The story of jesus is a poorly put together script. The character of jesus could have never existed in real life, but the impact he does make from being a part of fiction is not so much about the NT as it has to do with the NT's 'fans' and the 'fans' of this supposed jesus.

J4J's are just more from the 'fanbase', if they really understood Judaism, there would not be such an organization.

This thread has already been discussing much of why christianity is so popular. A lot of it has to do with standard human nature. How popular something is with people is not an automatic judgement of that exact thing's actual value. In other words, "if everyone wanted to jump in a lake, does that mean everyone should?'

Michael Jackson is popular, that is understood, but being 'an accomplished entertainer', is an opinion. Jackson's recent trial could be later used in somewhat the same way as jesus' trial was used.
yeah, those Michael Jackson followers...really something, I had one of them pass me a pamphlet saying he was the reincarnation of Elvis...THE KING HAS RETURNED
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