Nathan Poe

neither were the people of Babel -- if you're going to worship mythology, it helps to read what it actually says.

Indeed -- Instead of trying to "see God," they were constructing a fitting resting place for someone they believe was a God.

It would seem that God is a far more lenient teacher than I am -- and I'll pass almost anyone.

Johnny Skeptic

Message to Free Indeed: If most of your evidence is quoting the Bible, you will probably get a moderator's warning for proselytizing. Quoting the Bible within reason is fine, but it is not fine when it becomes proselytizing. Simply saying that the Bible says this or that is not evidence, especially in a forum like this. In addition, most or all skeptics at this forum are already well acquainted with the Bible.

Romans 10:17 says "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Some Christians who have visited these forms and are aware of that verse have posted large amounts of Scriptures in the hopes that reading the Scriptures will help convince some skeptics to become Christians. However, that is proselytizing, and proselytizing is not allowed at these forums. How would you like it if you went to a Muslim website and Muslims tended to post large amounts of the Koran?

I have read a number of your posts at three forums. It is obvious that you are poorly prepared to debate at these forums. Merely making assertions, including quoting the Bible, will not get you anywhere at these forums. You do not even have a basic knowledge of some of the issues that you discuss. For instance, at the Evolution/Creation Forum, as evidence for the global flood, you mentioned that ammonites are found on the tops of mountains. The simple truth is that it would be very surprising if shells WERE NOT found on the tops of mountains. Leonardo da Vinci and others noted centuries ago that shells are on mountaintops because the mountains started out at sea level, and when they rose, some shells rose with them.

You conveniently refused to reply to a number of posts at the General Religious Discussions Forum, and at the Evolution/Creation Forum, and now you have refused to reply to some posts at this forum. If you continue to use that approach, soon, few if any people will take you seriously, and they will not reply to your posts.

Wooster

Ok, I am waiting.

Mech Bliss

It is not evidence. It is the claim itself.

After all, you wouldn't be making outlandish claims like that in the OP or that a global flood happened unless you read it in the bible first. It is the initial claim that you parrot, and a claim cannot be evidence for itself. Where is any independent evidence to verify any claims you have made?

And to be honest, given FI's recent posts, I can't tell whether FI is an actual creationist or simply someone pretending to be a creationist for laughs. Yeah, your example as a creationist and ability to defend your claims is truly that bad that it seems as likely that you're joking.

Nathan Poe

So is The Iliad. Evidence of what, ah, there's the rub...

sugarhitman

Ofcourse not seeing that during the tower of babel all nations were one. In pre flood times there were no nation states....Egypt did not exist.

Johnny Skeptic

Free Indeed believes that the flood was global. Your buddy Arnoldo believes that the flood was localized, although two of his sources, Dr. Hugh Ross, and Glenn Morton, disagree regarding where a localized flood occurred. Do you believe that the flood was global or localized? If the latter, where do you believe that the flood occurred, and when do you believe that it occurred?

What evidence do you have regarding when Egypt first existed as a nation?

Why should anyone believe that the story of the Tower of Babel is not a myth?

Please state what sources you use for your information.

Johnny Skeptic

Please state your defintion for the word "evidence."

sugarhitman

don't be impatient, you'll find out soon enough.

Johnny Skeptic

Or perhaps you know that you are not adequately prepared to discuss those issues and do not want to embarrass yourself. It is customary and expected when making claims to provide support for the claims. People who refuse to provide support for their claims obviously know that they are not prepared to defend their claims, which means that they should not have made the claims in the first place.