Lucretius

So now the vague phrase "all the divisions" is meant to be a "line by line seperation and analysis " of EVERY SINGLE LINE of the entire Pentateuch into the "original" JEDP books",IF that was what you wanted Dave why didn't you say so ?
Even if I found such a website would you promise to read it (with an open mind) ?
In any case if you are so interested in this subject why not buy one of the many books on the subject or are you afraid that the ideas contained therin will "contaminate" your library?

Regarding the $10 book you bought for $86 I did go to your site (takes a while to load on my computer incidentally) and did note that it was Wiseman's paperback and not the hardback Faber in 3 volumes you had previously bragged about owning and even commented on that here.

Dean Anderson

I think I owe Dave an apology about that.

I'm very sorry for erroneously claiming that he got a $10 book for $86.

I've re-read his site, and it is clear that he actually got it for the bargain price of $85.

I am sorry for any confusion my error may have caused.

Dave Hawkins

I don't know why you are trying to insult me for supposedly over-paying for this book. At the time I was shopping, $85 was the best I could find. I see now that you can obtain the book for as little as $42.99 http://www.alibris.com/search/detail...ches=3&qsort=r

Hopefully, as the Wiseman Hypothesis is discussed more and more, a publisher will jump in and print a cheap edition.

shirley knott

How odd that after pages of detailed and focused commentary on the various delusions he's supporting, dave pops in to respond only to a perceived slight.
Not that we've ever seen such behavior before...
So dave, what about your assumptions and presuppositions?
What about Dean's devastating fisking of the implications and presuppositions of the Tablet Theory[sic]?
Or have your sensitivities been so brutalized by this (perceived) horrible slight that you can't respond until you regain your composure?

no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott

Lucretius

$42.99 still seems rather expensive considering that only the other day I could have got a copy for just over $10 on Amazon .
Anyway thats slightly beside the point.
Wiseman's original proposal was published in 1936 and soon disappeared without trace as people, who actually knew something about the DH and Biblical Studies, pointed out its' obvious deficiences as a valid, workable hypothesis .
It re-appeared in 1985 ,in the revised and edited version by his son, only to suffer the same fate and is now making it's third appearance, thanks to the internet and "Creationist" websites , without any of the obvious flaws in it having been addressed at all .
It just does not work as a valid and workable hypothesis Dave it never has in the last 71 years and still does not now .
It relies solely on the ,as has been shown here , rather dubious claim that Toledoth = Colophon (or vice versa ) with no other "evidence" at all

Cege

Bolded emphasis in the wikipedia quote was added by afdave. With his emphasis, he ignored the complete description of a colophon, though. Colophons contain names of associated persons, literary contents and occasion or purpose of writing.

Genesis' toledoths consist of "These are the generations of ..." which contain names but otherwise don't resemble the examples of ancient colophons we've found.

Here's another description of colophons:

"Documents written in Mesopotamia were generally inscribed upon stone or clay tablets. It was customary for the ancient scribes to add a colophon note at the end of the account, giving particulars of title, date, and the name of the writer or owner, together with other details relating to the contents of a tablet, manuscript or book."

and an ancient example from that same link:

"First tablet of ... after the tablet ... Mushetiq-umi ... A copy from Babylon; written like its original and collated. The tablet of Nabu-mushetiq-umi [5th] month Iyyar, 9th day, 27th year of Darius."

Neither the description nor the example resemble the meager "These are the generations of ..." toledoth that afdave would have us believe to be a colophon.

Still no evidence from afdave that toledoths are the same as colophons. On the contrary, only evidence that toledoths are not the same as colophons.

Seven Popes

Learn to google. Stupidity can be expensive.

Constant Mews

the general difficulty creationist seem to have doing online research is interesting. I suspect them of Luddite inclinations.

-Jay-

$30.40 from Woody's Books. I've got to agree with Dave on this, though. You pay what you're willing to for the book you want, and if it's $85, you pay $85.

Here's the contact information for the original publishers:

Thomas Nelson, Inc.
PO Box 141000
Nashville, TN 37214

They could probably tell you who currently owns the rights and whether they have any plans for a re-issue.

regards,

NinJay

Constant Mews

because the 'slight' is more important to Dave. His ego often seems to get in the way of his argument.