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Old 02-19-2012, 02:42 PM   #151
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but I only trust philosophy majors with epistemology.
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:25 PM   #152
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this is a stupid argument john outhouse. only a fool would say there are no gray areas whe. approaching ancient historical records. have you seen what the proposed ancient site of the city of troy looks like? you atheists are too busy trying to take over the world to pay attention to subtleties and gray areas

except for one problem.

this case is all but shut and closed.

there is no valid research going on towards the historicity of Moses. How ancient semetic speaking people migrated and where they came from has already been worked and none of the findings are in dispute at all.
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but I only trust philosophy majors with epistemology.
That is your problem.

Now for the third time, perhaps you can apply your erudite philosophical epistemology to answer this question;

Stephan, you have repeatedly cited something allegedly written by Manetho as being the reason for your persuasion.

Thus it should not be unreasonable to ask of you, exactly what it is that you think was written by Manetho?

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Old 02-19-2012, 03:44 PM   #154
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That's public knowledge (or at least should be a prerequisite for anyone engaging in this discussion). this thread began with the question about WHEN the Israelites left Egypt. The abnegationist now take that one step further and say this never happened in any way shape or form and challenge the other side to disprove the null hypothesis. if you're interested in Manetho why not Google his name?
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No Stephan. Google will not do. Public knowledge is not what I requested.

I need to hear directly from you 'exactly what it is that you think was written by Manetho.'
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it's not what I think he said manetho was used by the pagans to show the ignoble origins of the jews
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Not doing very well here with the 'ol epistemology Stephan. Your philosophy major desert you?
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You havent brought forward anything. ive argued that the samaritan chronology makes it likely exodus is related to the hyskos invasion. Read manetho
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You havent brought forward anything. ive argued that the samaritan chronology makes it likely exodus is related to the hyskos invasion. Read manetho


well this spretty much shoots holes through your work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

The ceramic evidence in the Memphis-Fayum region of Lower Egypt argues against the presence of new invading foreigners. Janine Bourriau's excavation in Memphis of ceramic material retrieved from Lisht and Dahshur during the Second Intermediate Period shows a continuity of Middle Kingdom ceramic type wares throughout this era. She finds in them no evidence of intrusion of Hyksos-style wares.[18] Bourriau's evidence strongly suggests that the traditional Egyptian view, long espoused by Manetho, that the Hyksos invaded and sacked the Memphite region and imposed their authority there, is fictitious.
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Oh well, I guess that does it. Back to the certainty of the "big lie"
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