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krazytamak · 01-08-2003, 12:06 PM

Check out the following BBC and Guardian articles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Stor...869358,00.html

livius drusus · 01-08-2003, 12:44 PM

Missus_Gumby figured that out a year ago.

livius drusus · 01-08-2003, 12:47 PM

And here he is caught in the act. Man it was easy to hook up back in the day.

Vinnie · 01-08-2003, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by krazytamak
Check out the following BBC and Guardian articles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Stor...869358,00.html

Hey, what part of Connecticut are your from? I live in Waterbury.

Don't answer that if you feel uncomfortable giving out that information. I am just curious.

Vinine

Toto · 01-08-2003, 12:52 PM

It would explain a lot.

I did a little web search on kaneh-bosem and found some correspondence in the Boulder Weekly

Quote:

. . .according to references such as Smith's Bible Dictionary, the Hebrew words "Kaneh" and "Bosem" meaning aromatic reed, are found in Exodus 30:23, and refer to the recipe for the Holy Anointing Oil of Israel. Kaneh Bosem is the Semitic root origin of the word "Kannabus" (Greek) and "Cannabis" (Latin). The rewriting of history to which Jeremy refers was actually done in 300 BC when Cannabis was mistranslated from the Hebrew Kaneh Bosem to the Greek meaning calamus. This recipe was revealed to Moses at the same time as the Ten Commandments. In modern units of measure it calls for nearly 8 pounds of Cannabis, along with other spices, for its preparation.

This oil was used to anoint all of the ceremonial vestments of the Hebrew tabernacle and the members of the Aaronic priesthood, as well as prophets and kings. Someone whose hair was anointed with this oil in the hot Sinai desert would contrast the earthly fragrances of desert nomads and would automatically seem "special". Also the fat soluble THC in the Cannabis would be absorbed through the scalp and "inspire" such an individual, so blessedly anointed, with enhanced spiritual receptivity, as is the effect of Cannabis. . . .

from a letter from Rev. Dennis Shields/The Religion of Jesus Church/Hawaii

Etymologist Sara Benetowa of the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw discovered in 1936, the connection between kaneh bosm in the Old Testament as the original Semitic Hebrew origins of the word cannabis. Hebrew University in Jerusalem in 1980 confirmed this information as correct. The five passages that experienced the "missing" are Exodus 30:23; Song of Solomon 4:14; Isaiah 43:24; Jeremiah 6:20; & Ezekiel 27:19. Kaneh bosm was mis-translated after the dark ages, where the Bible was prohibited by the Roman Empire. . .

from Stan White/Dillon, Colo.

There is more history here on the Christian Libertarian forums (message 666 - ?)

cfgauss · 01-08-2003, 01:30 PM

That reminds me of the Weird Al song, "What if God smoked Cannabis" (one of the best songs ever, IMHO).

Toto · 01-08-2003, 01:31 PM

The tendency is to treat this with a bit of levity, not that there's anything wrong with that.

But I think this does explain a lot. It certainly makes more sense to think that these Bronze Age goatherders were reacting to a drug, than to think that they were so gullible they would believe what the priests told them with no proof.

Add to that the fact that the Biblical diet did not include caffeine (no coffee until the Arabs discovered it, no tea until trade routes with China were set up, no chocolate until the discovery of the New World), and caffeine is a stimulant that is everywhere connected to enhanced brain activity, rational thinking, scientific discovery - I think this gives new insights.

cfgauss · 01-08-2003, 01:43 PM

Yeah, I've thought that drugs played a part in religion for a long time (whether or not it's use was deliberate).

Mageth · 01-08-2003, 01:51 PM

Come to think of it, the Jesus Fish symbol does look a bit like a nice fat doobie.

Marduk · 01-08-2003, 03:22 PM

Then of course there is that �manna from heaven� being some sort of psychedelic mushroom and the Jesus mushroom cult business as well.

�The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross�

http://www.csp.org/chrestomathy/sacred_mushroom2.html

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livius drusus Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Selva Oscura Posts: 4,120	Missus_Gumby figured that out a year ago.

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livius drusus Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Selva Oscura Posts: 4,120	And here he is caught in the act. Man it was easy to hook up back in the day.

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cfgauss Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 108	That reminds me of the Weird Al song, "What if God smoked Cannabis" (one of the best songs ever, IMHO).

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The tendency is to treat this with a bit of levity, not that there's anything wrong with that. But I think this does explain a lot. It certainly makes more sense to think that these Bronze Age goatherders were reacting to a drug, than to think that they were so gullible they would believe what the priests told them with no proof. Add to that the fact that the Biblical diet did not include caffeine (no coffee until the Arabs discovered it, no tea until trade routes with China were set up, no chocolate until the discovery of the New World), and caffeine is a stimulant that is everywhere connected to enhanced brain activity, rational thinking, scientific discovery - I think this gives new insights.

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cfgauss Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 108	Yeah, I've thought that drugs played a part in religion for a long time (whether or not it's use was deliberate).

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Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Come to think of it, the Jesus Fish symbol does look a bit like a nice fat doobie.

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Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	Then of course there is that �manna from heaven� being some sort of psychedelic mushroom and the Jesus mushroom cult business as well. �The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross� http://www.csp.org/chrestomathy/sacred_mushroom2.html

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