jakejonesiv

Who were the 500 people, and what did they see? Why do you state that "Paul" was with the 500 people when the text doesn't say this?

Jake

aa5874

This is (KJV)1 Corinthians 15.3-8
It would appear that the Pauline writer "received' and "delivered" the information about the 500 brethren who saw Jesus in a resurrected state.

My use of "with" was just to signify quantity not location, that is "Paul and over 500 people".

kcdad

"Seen" huh? Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear...

Jer 5:21
Isa 6:9,10, 43:8
Mark 4:12, 8:18
Deut 29:4
Psalm 69:23, 115:5-8

There are more... Grow up Bible readers and lose the literal interpretations.

aa5874

That is exactly my point. You MUST lose your literal interpretations of gMark and SEE that Jesus cannot be considered REAL at all.

The words in gMark or the NT about Jesus are literally the words of the authors themselves and not from a literal Jesus.

Please follow your own advice and grow up as a Bible reader.

kcdad

You are so completely sold on your own ego so much that you can not see anything else?

Just because something ins not literal doesn't mean it doesn't exist or have truth in it... Crimeny, that is what literature is all about.

mountainman

The Christian Bible contains a specific number of books upon which a process of closure was undertaken between c.325 CE (Constantine's Bible) and the mid to late 4th century (Athanasius' Bible). However everyone is forgetting that these books are not the only evidence. Other gospels and Acts were authored - dozens and dozens of them - and they represent literary evidence from the same epoch during which the NT canon was purportedly written.

Put the Bible down. It is Bullneck's Bullshit. Pick up the non canonical gospels and acts and the Nag Hammadi Codices and have a read of these texts. In the gnostic gospels and acts the historical jesus becomes an absolutely fantastically senseless proposition. He appears as a little child and as a man and an old man, he appears and disappears, he does not leave footprints and he cannot be touched. Why is this?

aa5874

Well, why don't show the literal words and acts of Jesus in gMark? Please show what you can literally see in gMark if you have no "ego" at all.

Did Jesus literally transfigure or walk on water?

Did Jesus literally curse the fig-tree?

Did Jesus literally spit into the face or eyes of the blind to make them see?

Did Jesus literally teach his disciples that he would be raised from the dead on the third day?

Please tell what the non-historical real Jesus actually and literally did and said.

kcdad

no
no

maybe
no

I think that you have no eyes nor ears...

aa5874

Oh I see !....I hear you now...It is not that you really have nothing to see or hear about your REAL non-historical Jesus but that I cannot see or hear nothing from you.

This is probably one of the worst excuses from a person who claims Jesus was non-historical but real.

In the NT, Jesus used spit to make people see but I don't think such remedies would work in the REAL world.

Now, when will you make me see or hear the real written words and the real recorded activities of Jesus in gMark on which you RELY.

A real Jesus is not necessary just blind belief.

These are the real written words of Jesus according to Eusebius in "Church History" 1.13.9 See http://www.newadvent.org

You don't need any eyes to believe Jesus was REAL.

Ask Saul/Paul. He was blinded as a bat when he encountered Jesus.

Do you have any eyes? I hope you can hear me now.

The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition since it was not necessary for Jesus to have been seen or for Jesus believers to have eyes.

kcdad

Perhaps THAT is the real issue... what you think can or can not be...


That was the stupidest link I have seen... which of the 33 links on that page (not counting the alphabetical contents) did you expect me to look at?

Was he blind, or is that a continuation of the metaphor... "I must have been blind not to see..."