Johnny Skeptic

You do not understand what my position is regarding the Tyre prophecy. Unlike most skeptics, my approach is not to debate whether or not the Tyre prophecy came true, but whether or not it was a prophecy. In my opinion, the prophecy was partially revised after the events. We can debate this further in sugarhitman's new thread on the Tyre prophecy.

arnoldo

Ok, I'm looking forward to seeing your proof of the "revisions."

sugarhitman

Tyre and the prophecy of Israel proves....that God exist. :wave:

Johnny Skeptic

But since the Bible is the claimant, not me, all that I need are reasonable plausibilities. I have discussed some the plausibilities in sugarhitman's new thread on the Tyre prophecy. We can discuss the Tyre prophecy further in that thread.

Johnny Skeptic

It is absurd for anyone to believe that a God exists who wants people to believe that he can predict the future. If he did, all that he would have needed to do would have been to make some indisputable predictions regarding when and where some natural disasters would occur. By "when," I mean month, day, and year.

Why didn't Ezekiel mention Alexander?

Johnny Skeptic

No they haven't. This all started when Abraham wrongfully stole land from the Canaanites.

The partition of Palestine allowed the Jews to control Jerusalem, and an unfairly disproportionate amount of land based upon land per capita, and yet you claim that the Arabs have always stated the wars. A much more equitable solution would have been joint control of Jerusalem, or dividing Jerusalem in half.

The most important war is the unfair and unnecessary war that God wages not only against skeptics, but also against Jews and Christians. Why would God give Jews parts of Palestine and kill them by various means such as parasites and cancer viruses?

Australia has a very small population, and it is very large. Most of the population lives near the ocean. Now what better place could there have been for God to set up a Jewish nation than in the middle of Australia, with no hatred, and not bloodshed?

The only reason that Jews and Arabs have ever had any problems is because God made sure that they were in the same places at the same times. This is analogous to the detestible, unlawful practice of cockfighting. Cocks would not fight unless humans put them in the same places at the same times.

Why do animals injure and kill each other in disputes over food, territory, and mates? Obviously, because God unfairly and unnecessarily puts them in the same places at the same times.

Now are you going to tell us that if Jewish and Palestinian history had been reversed, and Hitler and other parties had persecuted Palestinians instead of Jews, that the U.S. would have approved of the Palestinians getting control of Jerusalem and a grossly disproportionate amount of land based upon the amount of land per person? The Partition of Palestine is a bona fide example of a self-fulfilled prophecy.

Sheshonq

You first. Since your claim arrived first, you can be the first one to support as well.

Let me now when you're ready.

Sheshonq

Except that Babylon did not defeat Tyre.

Probably because they realized that Babylon failed.

Repeating an unsupported claim and then adding the little handwave leaves you with........an unsupported claim.

Sheshonq

1. No misunderstandings or misinterpretations here. The plain reading of the text said that Nebuchadnezzar would conquer Tyre. He failed.

2. And if you think Israel proves God's existence, feel free to support your claim by demonstrating that it is a fulfilled prophecy. I listed the criteria already; the only question is whether or not you have the courage and intellectual horsepower to support your claims.

arnoldo

Because the prophet Daniel does.