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Old 09-05-2008, 11:04 AM   #71
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I don't want to get too much into that, as it is after all, wild eyed speculation...
But, you are using assumptions or speculations to set up pre-existing traditions.
That's generally the case, when one is engaging in explicitly declared wild eyed speculation.
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The point remains then that the mainstream position is yet to make any form of commentary on the external characteristics of the texts that comprise the full and complete set of new testament literature.
Doesn't it? You might not like the answer, and really neither do I, but it's plausible.
The wholly implausible answer relies wholly upon the literary testimony of Eusebius and is supported by no other single independent archaeological and/or objective scientific citation in the field of ancient history. Mainstream uses a chronology which is thus wholly conjectural, based on the internal literary references tendered by Eusebius Pamphilus of Caesarea, Constantine's right hand man, and the inventor of christian ecclesiatical historiography.

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The answer is that Christianity was relatively obscure until Constantine's "conversion".
This is one possible "answer". There are others. Another is that he invented christianity in a similar manner as did Ardashir create Zoroastrianism almost one century earlier. Whereas Ardashir destroyed the Parthian literature and thus its civilisation, so did Constantine set out to destroy the Hellenic (ie: Pythagorean etc) literature and thus the Hellenic civilisation as it was then.


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At that point, huge numbers of copies were penned. None of the originals have survived that we know of, but by sheer luck due to the large numbers of copies made in the 4th century, a few copies have survived.
At that point (when we know Constantine lavishly published what was to become the official new testament canon) c.331 CE, we have two C14 citations for apochryphal (ie: non canonical new testament texts) in the gJudas and the gThomas.

DeConnick believes gJudas is a parody/satire. IMO the entire genre of the non canonical new testament literature may be perceived as satire written by the indigenous Hellenic collegiate temple priesthood -- who were ascetic priests -- and Constantine reveals Arius of Alexandria to be an ascetic priest who has a very great popularity with the populace.

Deconnick however, like the rest of the mainstream pundits, relies upon the wholly conjectural Eusebian chronology. IMO, we have Arius of Alexandria and perhaps other writers, taking up their pen and creating the non canonical new testament texts, in polemic and satire and parody against the canon of Constantine during the period from 324 CE until perhaps the end of the century at which time the emperor cult became supreme.

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