Originally Posted by Iskander

The ‘Josephus’ coin confirms that the name “antigonus” which is found in a book was also used in a coin.

What is this coin telling you?
http://www.goddess-athena.org/Museum/Coins/index.htm


Tetradrachm, silver - 460-450 BCE,
Obv. Head Athena R., Rev. Owl Stg. R.
Olive sprig, AOE.


This coin is showing the goddess Athena whose name is also found in books.
The coin tells me that non-existent men and women made of no flesh and no blood made this coin in the image of the historical figure of flesh and blood of historical Athena.

Then I will look for a book in which this name is found to identify the composite non-existent men and women whose names are not found in coins.

Originally Posted by maryhelena

Please see my above reply. This thread is dealing with Hasmonean/Jewish history. If you want to deal with other matters - then, let me repeat - please start your own thread.

Originally Posted by Iskander

Your thread is using the writings of someone to say that another man is a non-existent composite invention.

You are using the coin as religious people use divine revelation

Originally Posted by maryhelena

HISTORY REJECTS THE ASSUMPTION OF A HISTORICAL GOSPEL JESUS FIGURE

Historical artefacts, such as coins, are testimony to the fact that certain individuals were historical figures. That is the bare bones of historical evidence. However, history requires a story; a narrative, to joins up the facts and present a meaningful picture. The picture could be cloudy and unclear or it could be a reasonable explanation of what happened. In the chart that follows, Josephus is the primary source for building that historical narrative. Did Josephus himself, writing after the events, have accurate material to work with? Or is Josephus creating his own narrative - and without a secondary source there is no way to be sure. All one can do is work with his material and question his story when it presents problems.

The chart below has set out Josephan Hasmonean history for Antigonus. It also presents the Josephan history for Philip the Tetrarch. Philo’s story about the mocking of Carabbas and Agrippa I is also used. This chart is the historical backdrop that allows the gospel literary, mythological JC, a veneer of historicity, an ability to reflect historical events. It is this reflection, this veneer of historicity, that has allowed the assumption that the gospel JC figure is a historical figure. That assumption, when considered in the light of history, the Hasmonean and Herodian coins, and that history’s narrative as set down by Josephus and Philo, is unfounded

Originally Posted by MrMacSon

Nothing confirms the Gospel stories.

That Christians generations after the gospel stories surfaced believed those stories does not make them true.

Even the first christian communities - within 1, 2 or 3 generations - may not have known where the stories came from.

Originally Posted by Iskander

Do you think “History Rejects the Assumption of a Historical Gospel Jesus Figure?”

Originally Posted by MrMacSon

The lack of primary data is telling -

• no 1st century artifacts;
• no 1st century archaeological sites;
• no contemporary texts from true 'eye' witnesses