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Old 07-16-2006, 05:07 PM   #831
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I wonder if this minimal HJ works.

John the Baptist - I prepare a way.
The massive hero elements in the gospels.
The purpose of the death and resurrection - to save all mankind, to create a new heaven and earth. The greatest story ever told - (De Milne).

A minimalist HJ makes no sense! I would agree with the catholics here - that hj is a heresy, you are stuck with the fully god fully man of the creeds.

And the point is if any species is part supernatural it is therefore by definition mythical!

QED?

The reason Paul does not say much about Jesus is very simple - this spiritual beastie had not yet had much flesh and life put on him - he did still see as in a glass darkly, he was working out his salvation in fear and trembling because his visions - like all visions - were not that clear. He had a few OT ideas to form his thinking, which were later developed by others by a oh yes he must be Immanuel process.
What you seem to be saying (please correct me if I have misunderstood) is that either the traditional Christian accounts of Jesus are true or else there never was any such person, and that you won’t admit any intermediate possibilities. But I can’t see that you’ve given any reason for this position.
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