S.C.Carlson

Yes, of course. I think a little cleaning up of the translation is necessary; it's pretty rough in places.

I believe so.

Stephen

Roger Pearse

Many thanks indeed! I'll check the translations against the Latin as well and let you know if I modify things.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Roger Pearse

The Ps. Polycarp is now online here also.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

S.C.Carlson

Many thanks!

Stephen

Julian

You guys are just too damned useful.

Any chance of seeing the original latin and/or greek alongside those translations?

Julian

Roger Pearse

Stephen did the Latin for Ps.Polycarp, and I've retained that.

I don't have the original language for the 'Marcionite' (dreadful name) prologues.

I didn't feel much urge to scan or retype the Latin (and Greek!) for the 'anti-Marcionite' prologues since my photocopy is fairly dreadful and, ultimately, the original languages aren't the focus of that collection of texts.

But:

Mark:

Marcus adservit, qui colobodactylus est nominatus, ideo quod ad ceteram corporis proceritatem digitos minores habuisset. Iste interpres fuit petri. Post excessionem ipsius petri descripsit idem hoc in partibus italiae evangelium.

(Four mss have more on the end, all plainly from Eusebius)

John:

Evangelium iohannis manifestatum et datum est ecclesiis ab iohanne adhuc in corpore constituto, sicut papias nomine hieropolitanus, discipulus iohannis carus, in exotericis, id est in extremis quinque libris retulit. Descripsit vero evangelium, dictante iohanne recte. Verum marcion hereticus, cum ab eo fuisset inprobatus eo quod contraria sentiebat, abiectus est ab iohanne. Is vero scripta vel epistulas ad eum pertulerat a fratribus qui in ponto fuerunt.

Luke: There is a Greek text, of which the following Latin found in various bibles must be a translation.

Est quidem lucas antiochensis syrus, arte medicus, discipulus apostolorum: postea vero paulum secutus est usque ad confessionem eius, serviens domino sine crimine. Uxorem numquam habuit, filios numquam procreavit, octaginta quattuor annorum obiit in boeotia, plenus spiritu sancto. Igitur cum iam descripta essent evangelia, per mattheum quidem in iudaea, per marcum autem in italia, sancto instigatus spiritu, in achaia partibus hoc descripsit evangelium, significans per principium ante suum alia esse descripta, sed et sibi maximam necessitatem incumbere graecis fidelibus cum summa diligentia omnem dispositionem narratione sua exponere, propterea ne iudaicis fabulis desiderio tenerentur, neve hereticis fabulis et stultis sollicitationibus seducti excederent a veritate. Itaque perquam necessariam statim in principio sumpsit ab iohannis nativitate, quae est initium evangelii, praemissus domini nostri iesu christi, et fuit socius ad perfectionem populi, item inductionem baptismi atque passionis socius. Cuius profecto dispositionis exemplum meminit malachiel propheta, unus de duodecim. Et tamen postremo scripsit idem lucas actus apostolorum. Postmodum iohannes apostolus scripsit apocalypsin in insula pathmos, deinde evangelium in asia.

But perhaps this should all be in the other thread?

All the best,

Roger Pearse