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aa5874 · 07-01-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

It doesn't matter. The point is that the texts are SILENT about anything to do with Saul/Paul's life during the lifetime of Jesus in Judea despite the fact that so many other people heard of him. In fact, the texts are SILENT even about what Saul/Paul might have heard second-hand about Jesus before Saul/Paul became a freelance persecutor...

Again, why do you IMAGINE that the supposed Saul/Paul was in Judea when Jesus supposedly lived???

You very well know that if Paul lived in the 1st century he could have been in Galatia, Rome, Corinth, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse or Thessalonica.

Why do you IMAGINE many people heard of Jesus???

You very well know that the story of Jesus could have been INVENTED and then MERELY copied just like the author of the Long ending Interpolated gMark copied the Jesus story from the short-ending gMark.

Duvduv · 07-01-2012, 11:20 AM

I am referring to the point of view of the believing authors, not my own. I am simply observing the way the biographies were written. That's all. It's really not all that complicated.

aa5874 · 07-01-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

I am referring to the point of view of the believing authors, not my own. I am simply observing the way the biographies were written. That's all. It's really not all that complicated.

The authors did NOT claim they believed the story of Jesus. You are the one who is claiming the authors were believers.

The authors who claimed Jesus was the Son of a Ghost, God the Creator, WALKED on water, Transfigured, resurrected and ascended could NOT have been writing the biography of a Human Being.

You MUST accept responsibility for your OWN statements.

Duvduv · 07-01-2012, 02:38 PM

Does anybody else want to jump in here on this little exchange with Mr. AA??

anethema · 07-01-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

Does anybody else want to jump in here on this little exchange with Mr. AA??

Why would we when he seems to be the only one here arguing actual evidence with a minimum of presuppositions about what can know about ancient history. When he talks about assumptions and imaginations he is correct in my view, if you cant see that check out the nearest mirror.

Duvduv · 07-01-2012, 06:05 PM

Yiu mean you like the way he keeps going around in circles as he doesn't address what I am raising?

Adam · 07-01-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

That makes no difference. Is it logical to tell the reader about his job as a persecutor and nothing before that when they portray him in Judea of roughly the same age as Jesus who had a revelation only a couple of years after the resurrection?
If Paul was there when thousands knew of the Christ so where was Paul?
On a business trip for Rabbi Gamliel in Mexico?

And how much do we know about you before you came on the scene here at FRDB? You're apparently Jewish, but it's unclear what type. You came here with nothing to tell us, just asking us questions.

So if Paul doesn't exist according to you. you don't exist according to me.

And you havn't learned much here if you don't yet know that aa goes in circles and does not answer questions. So have you even been here while you've been here? Was it some other guy who signed in in Nov. 2011?

Duvduv · 07-01-2012, 07:28 PM

Where do you get this Us versus You thing?
I don't quite understand what you want and also don't recall any obligation to provide you with my resume any more than you do. If all you think is that I ask "You" questions, then you haven't been reading my postings and haven't kept track of questions, either substantive or rhetorical, of other posters.
Do you serve as some kind of Policeman for this message board? Are posters restricted to their opinions and to their questions or comments? Not that I recall.

aa5874 · 07-01-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

....And you havn't learned much here if you don't yet know that aa goes in circles and does not answer questions. So have you even been here while you've been here? Was it some other guy who signed in in Nov. 2011?

You are NOT credible.

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07-01-2012, 11:20 AM	#32
Duvduv Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 4,095	I am referring to the point of view of the believing authors, not my own. I am simply observing the way the biographies were written. That's all. It's really not all that complicated.

07-01-2012, 02:38 PM	#34
Duvduv Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 4,095	Does anybody else want to jump in here on this little exchange with Mr. AA??

07-01-2012, 06:05 PM	#36
Duvduv Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 4,095	Yiu mean you like the way he keeps going around in circles as he doesn't address what I am raising?

07-01-2012, 07:28 PM	#38
Duvduv Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 4,095	Where do you get this Us versus You thing? I don't quite understand what you want and also don't recall any obligation to provide you with my resume any more than you do. If all you think is that I ask "You" questions, then you haven't been reading my postings and haven't kept track of questions, either substantive or rhetorical, of other posters. Do you serve as some kind of Policeman for this message board? Are posters restricted to their opinions and to their questions or comments? Not that I recall.

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