semiopen

These are strong words even if they are true Joan.

The sister-wife series appears at least three times. The patriarchs were dysfunctional, you'd think Abraham and Sarah, and Isaac would have a quiet evening outside the tent looking at the stars and reminisce about the old days. Abraham would kid Sarah about being a few inches from giving Pharoh a BJ.

Maybe Isaac remembered the story after he told the king (he never seemed the same after the Akeida) and decided to let the king know what was going on by having sex with Rebecca where Avimelekh could see. The king realizes they are not brother and sister, although figuring the times were as lawless as the bible tells us, I'm not sure why he doesn't think they are just perverts or weirdos.

Lester Grabbe, is a pretty conservative biblical scholar. He thinks Solomon was historical for some reason but suggests he wasn't David's son... short lived dynasty.

A guy with 700 wives and 300 concubines is compensating for something. Assuming Solomon was "Jewish," (after all he built the temple) he would have to take seven days off to spend a honeymoon with each wife, so that's 4900 days of vacation right there or about 40% of his entire reign.

IamJoseph

One belief system says imposing is the wrong way: entry must be made very testing - and leaving easy [wish they'd do this with driving licenses]. You will find the west imposed and changed and made majestic laws fullfilled away. But this was a lost cause - every world accepted law - bar none - is contained only in the Hebrew bible.

Check any bona fide institution, and nominate a law from elsewhere? The US Constitution is a result of over-turning medevial Europe's laws - namely the western laws are based on non-European Hebrew laws. Democrasy, in its correct form, also comes from the Hebrew bible. Its just that the word 'religion' has bad maggage - and scapegoating all blame is the easiest path.

IamJoseph

Yes.

Is it worth responding to?

semiopen

I think it's at least worth going through your oldest aplphabetical book routine.

The "sister wife" stories are historically important. The bible is saying that everyday life was so lawless in Egypt and Canaan that a man traveling with a reasonably attractive wife would be killed. You have stated previously that the bible is an accurate historical picture of that period. This is a legitmate challenge to your statement.

The other statements are also accurate. Solomon moreover participated in human sacrifice to other Gods according to Kings.

steve_bnk

You must be reading a differnt bible and history then I am. Christianity through Paul rejected the requiremnt to maintain Jewish law in order to be a Christian. The Judeo tradition is a theorcacy not unblike Islam.

Up through post WWII Jews and anything Jewish was anathema to Christians in Europe and the USA. In a somewhat bizzare shift only recently have some evengelical Christians glomed onto Judaism and Isreal as their own, and soem idendtifying with Jews.

To call the USA 'Judaeo-Christian' is only a fairly recent idea.

Thye ancient Jews and some modern ones belive they were the chosen folks of an all powerful god to the exclusion of others with no compromnise.

Modern Christians with few eceptions generaly can not accept the validity of any other faith.

The centuries of RCC theorcacy in Europe made majestic laws?

Religion is superstition, it may be benificial superstion for many and opressive supperstition for others in ridiculous relgious conflicts. but all in all, superstition.

semiopen

The serpent certainly thought Eve was attractive, and had sex with her:

The hebrew word Hishi can be translated beguiled, but we're all adults here. This is pretty standard stuff.

http://mystery-babylon.org/cain.html

might have been a clearer warning, but maybe the two things were related.

Sarah strikes me as being more of a dominatrix, which definitely was a turn on for God:

They say she died of heartbreak when Abraham took little 35 year old Isaac out for a barbecue. What goes around comes around.

Esther was a real goddess... literally. Her name is derived from Ishtar, maybe Asherah. There's little doubt that Purim is pagan, the only question is whether it's origin is Assyrian, Babylonian, or Persian.

premjan

Snake sex=hentai.

Joan of Bark

So are you saying that you can't refute my points? You're conceding defeat?

IamJoseph

'beguiled'. It fits better in the context of 'the most cunning of all creatures', and being tricked: Eve inadvertantly erred when she said the fruit cannot be touched, as opposed eaten - the serpent got her here. This was Adam's error. Suggest you get a bona fide copy of this book.




It was prudent to Persianise the name in dictartorial regimes.

The Hebrews were monotheist before the Babylon invasion, even in Egypt and canaan.

IamJoseph

Absolutely. You win.