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aa5874 · 01-10-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic

I disagree that HJ has to be defined as necessarily synonymous with Gospel Jesus, even a non-supernatural Gospel Jesus. I think the central criterion would be whether a real person was at the root of Christianity. Regardless of the Gospels, Christianity had an origin, and that origin either goes back to the veneration of a real person or it doesn't. I think it's immaterial whether that person has anything to do with the character in the Gospels.

That is precisely why the Quest for an historical Jesus in permanently Futile. There is NO known historical source for Jesus of Nazareth.

Chili · 01-10-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

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Originally Posted by tanya

I found maryhelena's submission persuasive.

Paul and Mark both borrowed from Hebrew texts to flesh out their pagan deity....

Paul and Mark got "Flesh" from a book of Mythology??

Only Words are in Hebrew Texts NOT "Flesh".

In the Beginning was the Word--All things about Jesus were made by WORDS in the NT.

Yes but the logos became flesh and dwells among us. The son is crucial in this to bring God down to earth.

And so , no longer the God of such and such who is not known beyond such and such. 'To this later the filioque was added, consciously, to mix fire and water that the Eastern rite refused to do or allow.

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