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Old 08-11-2012, 07:30 PM   #91
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Sorry, you aren't being very clear. But it doesn't really matter since you are already well at ease with the hypothetical notion of a historical first century Jesus and Paul......

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What movement 3 decades after whose death?

the ones [plural] responsible for GMark Luke and Matthew, let alone the named community for Gjohn
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:41 PM   #92
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Sorry, you aren't being very clear. But it doesn't really matter since you are already well at ease with the hypothetical notion of a historical first century Jesus and Paul......

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the ones [plural] responsible for GMark Luke and Matthew, let alone the named community for Gjohn
Paul there is no doubt

Jesus is questionable but probable


as far as paul one word you should address is "Ignatius"
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:30 PM   #93
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Jesus is questionable but probable...
Are you going to use the Paul/Seneca letters to show that there was a 1st century Pauline writer???


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as far as paul one word you should address is "Ignatius"
Ignatius is a QUESTIONABLE source. NO letter of Ignatius has been recovered and dated to the time of authorship.

Presumptions are WORTHLESS at this point.

This is a SERIOUS matter. Nothing can be ruled in or out based on your IDLE speculation.

Please, just get some Credible Sources of antiquity.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:26 PM   #94
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Any writings COMMISSIONED by the fourth century or even fifth century REGIME were commissioned by a Christian Roman regime which OF COURSE did not exist in the second century.

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there was no christian regime, early on. it didnt get romanized until Constantine
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