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Old 11-07-2010, 01:22 AM   #1
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“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


Who were Peter's brothers?
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“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


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The other disciples and followers of the Lord.
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“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


Who were Peter's brothers?
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The other disciples and followers of the Lord.
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Such a thing is not at all so 'simplistic'.... Determining who were the brothers of Simon Peter is extremely important in the exegetical economy ..

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“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


Who were Peter's brothers?
The other disciples and followers of the Lord.

'Brothers' was used metaphorically, so that the brothers of Peter were not his flesh and blood brothers?

How can we tell when 'brother' being used metaphorically and when it is without doubt the strongest incontrovertible evidence that Jesus had a flesh and bloood brother?
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When self-declared authorities say so.
Or that seems to be the theory, anyway.
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The other disciples and followers of the Lord.

'Brothers' was used metaphorically, so that the brothers of Peter were not his flesh and blood brothers?

How can we tell when 'brother' being used metaphorically and when it is without doubt the strongest incontrovertible evidence that Jesus had a flesh and bloood brother?
Well that's easy - one must be filled with the Holy Spirit in order to understand the Holy Scriptures.
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Well that's easy - one must be filled with the Holy Spirit in order to understand the Holy Scriptures.
...an alternative is to be wholly filled with spirits.
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Well that's easy - one must be filled with the Holy Spirit in order to understand the Holy Scriptures.
...an alternative is to be wholly filled with spirits.
Which no doubt many people are.
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'Brothers' was used metaphorically, so that the brothers of Peter were not his flesh and blood brothers?

How can we tell when 'brother' being used metaphorically and when it is without doubt the strongest incontrovertible evidence that Jesus had a flesh and bloood brother?
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Judas Thomas (from the Hebrew 'Toma', meaning 'equal', 'twin') was the twin of Jesus: ergo, there should be no doubt about the fact that he was the brother of Jesus according to the 'flesh and blood' .

James the 'less', also called the Just (but not in exclusive way, as all members of the sect of John the Baptist were also appealed with the attribute 'just') was the son of the Virgin Mary, but of a different father from that of Jesus and Judas Thomas

Speaking of James, Eusebius says of him "brother of Jesus according to the flesh." With such a specification Eusebius tells us, in practice, that there were brothers of Jesus who were not according to the flesh and blood (ie they were stepbrothers). These brothers were Simon and Joseph, as recorded in the lists that appear in the canonical gospels. Their parents were different from those of Jesus and Judas. However, the father of Simon and Joseph was the father of James the Just.

From all this one can argue that it is not completely false as stated by the author of the Protoevangelium by James, that the brothers by Jesus were sons that 'Joseph' had had by a previous marriage with another woman. This was true, but only for two brothers of the Nazarene, ie Simon and Joseph (whose real name was actually John).

Also, keep in mind that James the Less was born about 5 years after Jesus and Judas (hence the nickname 'the Less'): ergo, at the time of the their birth, the twins Jesus and Judas had only two brothers, namely Simone and Judah, born from a previous marriage of 'Joseph', which was absolutely not the father of twins, the latter having been a Roman legionary (see Celso)(*)

To close, I must say that I find very amusing that some people love to emphasize the own intellectual blindness and the own mental dullness ...


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(*) - to be more precise also, at the time of their birth the two twins Jesus and Judas Thomas hadn't yet brothers, since their mother, the Virgin Mary, married the man who became the father of James the less when they had reached around the age of 4 or 5 years. There are patristic indications, duly 'masked', which states that the Virgin Mary had two husbands. However, from her first husband she had no children. (She fled with her lover after even less a year of marriage: from which the 'nickname' STADA, or 'Stadea', which the Jews ironically applied to the Jesus' mother)

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Who were Peter's brothers?
Since no extant document identifies them, there is just no way to know.

My guess would be that the author intended the reference to be to the other disciples, but anyone else's guess would be just as good as mine.
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