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TimBowe · 09-28-2009, 08:23 PM

Yes, I don't like Craig either, but address the points he makes.

aa5874 · 09-28-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

.... What I'm asking (again) is why you trust them to tell you about historical documents not containing any mention of Jesus, but then don't trust them to tell you there is still solid evidence for him. You've got to be consistent. And since they spend their lives studying this stuff (and many are non-believers) I trust their opinions more than yours.

I have consistently asked for the solid evidence but none have surfaced. I don't trust people who claim that there is solid evidence and then cannot provide one single credible source external of the Church.

And some of these people may also there claim there is solid evidence for heaven.

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Originally Posted by aa5874

Have you read every single document or heard every oral conversation, in every language, about Achilles or Mermaids?

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

Can you find any mythology scholars claiming they existed?

Can you find any scholar who claim Jesus was a myth?

Transient · 09-28-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBowe

That's my whole point, you people arguing for the nonexistence hypothesis are in a minority . I understand that none of you care, but that wont change the fact that it is essentially without supporters in academic circles.

We could have the same debate with merlin and king arthur but since they are not religions there are not many who really care. Do you still not get it mate?
And no response to why you posted a link to a site that refuted what you said?

It is not rational to expect a person living 2000 years later to know whether a story written back then is based on reality. Any god that based "salvation" on such a necessity would be a monster.

The people who accept christianity would just as easily accept another religion if they were born into it.

The people who escape chistianity would probably escape Islam or mormonism too and those that don't like to question chistianity cause it's not the done thing would also be stuck in those other religions too.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Doug Shaver · 09-28-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Shaver

No. I have read all the documents that historicists claim as evidence, but only in English translations.

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Originally Posted by Steven Carr

How many of the New Testament works actually come from 1st century Palestine?

I don't know whether any of them did. I took the question to mean, "Have you actually looked at all the evidence?" And the answer is: Yes, I have.

Sheshbazzar · 09-28-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBowe

Yes, I don't like Craig either, but address the points he makes.

They have already been addressed a thousand times and more on these forums, that's what makes your cut and paste job so pathetic and so funny.
Do a search

TimBowe · 09-28-2009, 08:30 PM

You are really very smart mate, I hope we can keep having this discussion mate.Were are you from mate, Australia, of course thats why you keeping saying mate, huh mate.

Barefoot Bree · 09-28-2009, 08:32 PM

Tim, may I ask you a question? Your profile says "atheist", and I think you confirmed it some time back.

So why is it soooooo important to you that we here "see the light" about the historicity of Jesus as you see it? I don't get it.....

Transient · 09-28-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBowe

You are really very smart mate, I hope we can keep having this discussion mate.Were are you from mate, Australia, of course thats why you keeping saying mate, huh mate.

Still going to dodge the question and revert to insults now?

Ktotwf · 09-28-2009, 08:33 PM

Wait, is the association of someone to Australia an insult now?

TimBowe · 09-28-2009, 08:34 PM

Because the Christ myth theory is not accepted by mainstream critical scholarship. It's really very simple.

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09-28-2009, 08:23 PM	#101
TimBowe Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oak Lawn, IL Posts: 1,620	Yes, I don't like Craig either, but address the points he makes.

09-28-2009, 08:30 PM	#106
TimBowe Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oak Lawn, IL Posts: 1,620	You are really very smart mate, I hope we can keep having this discussion mate.Were are you from mate, Australia, of course thats why you keeping saying mate, huh mate.

09-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#107
Barefoot Bree Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: East of ginger trees Posts: 12,637	Tim, may I ask you a question? Your profile says "atheist", and I think you confirmed it some time back. So why is it soooooo important to you that we here "see the light" about the historicity of Jesus as you see it? I don't get it.....

09-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#109
Ktotwf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,936	Wait, is the association of someone to Australia an insult now?

09-28-2009, 08:34 PM	#110
TimBowe Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oak Lawn, IL Posts: 1,620	Because the Christ myth theory is not accepted by mainstream critical scholarship. It's really very simple.

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