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burning flames · 11-25-2007, 09:59 PM

http://www.gerald-massey.org.uk/mass...ical_jesus.htm

Toto · 11-26-2007, 12:05 AM

We discourage posting naked links. What is your point?

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THE HISTORICAL JESUS AND MYTHICAL CHRIST.

(All necessary references to the original authorities may be found in the Author's "Natural Genesis.")

[Note: This title was first published in 1886 by the Star Publishing Company, Springfield, Mass., and comprised the whole of the section 'Typology of Equinoctial Christology' from Massey's Natural Genesis, Vol. II. It included also the Glossary, Index, and References that he did not print in his later, abbreviated private issue of this Lecture that is presented here.

burning flames · 11-26-2007, 12:09 AM

sorry, just spreading a valuable link, thats all. no point besides that, Im not even done reading it myself.

interested in what people think of massey's work.

Toto · 11-26-2007, 12:34 AM

Valuable? Massey is not exactly a good reference.

burning flames · 11-26-2007, 01:02 AM

really?

Toto · 11-26-2007, 01:14 AM

We discourage one line posts, especially those that are not even complete sentences.

Gerald_Massey "an English self-taught Egyptologist and poet"

He died in 1907. The field of Egyptology has progressed somewhat in the past century.

He has some historical interest, but modern Egyptologists do not rely on his work. See this link.

burning flames · 11-26-2007, 01:21 AM

thank you for the info. I had always heard good things about Massey, Im in the middle of his collosal ancient egypt : the light of the world.

so aww nuts I guess, time to look up "The Secret Lore of Egypt" recommended in the link.

Freethinkaluva · 11-26-2007, 09:57 AM

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"Born in abject poverty, Gerald Massey was almost entirely self-taught; yet, he was able to write and lecture about several subjects with tremendous erudition and authority. In his works, Massey utilized numerous ancient texts, including Judeo-Christian writings such as the Bible, as well as those of early Church fathers such as Clement of Alexandria, Epiphanius, Hippolytus, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Eusebius and Jerome. Massey also cited non-Christian, Jewish and Gnostic writers such as Herodotus, Pausanias, Philo and Valentinus, and writings such as the Talmud and the Hindu Puranas. Despite his lack of formal education, Massey was able to read several languages, including not only English but also French, Latin, Greek and evidently some Hebrew and Egyptian.

In his detailed description of the Egyptian religion, Massey also utilized the works of Champollion, Birch, Petrie, Renan, Renouf, Maspero, Lundy and Budge, among other sources. Massey extensively cited not only the Egyptian Book of the Dead, likewise called "The Ritual," but also several other ancient Egyptian sources, such as the Turin Papyrus and the Pyramid Texts of Pepi I, as well as assorted other funeral texts and stele. Massey quite evidently understood the Egyptian spirituality and was able to present it in a highly sound and scientific manner. Massey's voluminous magnum opus, Ancient Egypt: Light of the World was reprinted in 2004 by Columbia University Press, with the following description:

"This expansive and fascinating treatment of ancient Egyptian mythology and its influence on the traditions that followed from it includes explorations of sign language in mythological representation, totemism, fetishism, spirits and gods, the Egyptian Book of the Dead and Egyptian wisdom in the Hebrew Genesis. Readers will enjoy the wealth of information offered by Gerald Massey, as well as his clear and readable style."

http://www.truthbeknown.com/luxor.html

I don't think Massey deserves the bad rap he has been getting lately. There seems to have been a consorted effort to remove any astrotheological connections from Egyptian to Christianity. The church does not take being exposed lightly. Budge, a Christian, admitted many connections from Egypt to Christianity so of course, he's not reliable either. It seems that anyone who makes these connections is deemed, "unreliable" so watch out for that.

Champollion has an interesting story to tell about his experience decoding the Rosetta stone. The BBC did a fascinating documentary on it.

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11-26-2007, 12:09 AM	#3
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	sorry, just spreading a valuable link, thats all. no point besides that, Im not even done reading it myself. interested in what people think of massey's work.

11-26-2007, 12:34 AM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Valuable? Massey is not exactly a good reference.

11-26-2007, 01:02 AM	#5
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	really?

11-26-2007, 01:14 AM	#6
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	We discourage one line posts, especially those that are not even complete sentences. Gerald_Massey "an English self-taught Egyptologist and poet" He died in 1907. The field of Egyptology has progressed somewhat in the past century. He has some historical interest, but modern Egyptologists do not rely on his work. See this link.

11-26-2007, 01:21 AM	#7
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	thank you for the info. I had always heard good things about Massey, Im in the middle of his collosal ancient egypt : the light of the world. so aww nuts I guess, time to look up "The Secret Lore of Egypt" recommended in the link.

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