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Old 04-20-2007, 09:16 AM   #951
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There have been hundreds of posts trying to refute my assertion that the historicity of Jesus is baseless, without merit.
No, there have been hundreds of posts trying to explain the fundamental, logical flaws in your approach but you have steadfastly refused to make even the appearance of attempting to comprehend them.

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Here are some of the refutations to my assertion:
1. Jesus may have been a historical figure since there is a fundamental assumption of death.
The refutation of your assertion is the fact that you have not shown any ability to differentiate between whether the death was of a mythical character or a real man subsequently mythologized.

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I find these refutations to be exremely weak and of little consequence.
You have not shown yourself capable of adequately evaluating any of the responses to your repeated assertions nor have you even shown yourself to be willing to learn how to do so.

You just keep repeating the same illogical requirements for historicity and the same tired mantra of your beliefs.

Nostradougus predicts:

You will continue to do nothing but repeat your errors and beliefs and your posts will receive fewer and fewer responses as members realize you are either uninterested in or incapable of a rational discussion of the evidence. Eventually, your posts will only obtain responses from newbies who don't know any better. :wave:
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:29 PM   #952
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I need to see some documentation, seeing that you claim you are the son of ghost. Drivers license, passport, birth certificate, social security number, or an affidavit from an attorney will do.
But if I never existed, than how can I have had a drivers license, a passport, a birth certificate, a social security number, or an affadavit from an attorney?

Furthermore, why are you requesting to see my docs but not requesting to see Jesus' DL, passport, birth cert, SSN, or affadavit from an attorney?
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:49 PM   #953
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No, there have been hundreds of posts trying to explain the fundamental, logical flaws in your approach but you have steadfastly refused to make even the appearance of attempting to comprehend them.
One of your refutations was that Jesus may be historical due to a fundamental assumption of death.

That refutation was easily debunked, since you could not established that Jesus actually lived, or even born.

Another refutation of yours was that Jesus may be historical because Jimmy Hoffa's body disappeared.

I pointed out to you that body of Jesus, according to the NT, never really went missing. Jesus was seen by witnesses eating fish and bread, walking through the walls or roof of a closed building and giving fishing instructions. And to make matters worse, Irenaeus, almost 2000 years ago, claimed he had information, from the disciple John, that Jesus lived until he was an old man.

Again, your refutation was easily debunked.

Another refutation was that Jesus may be historical because Suetonius wrote that Augustus was deified and was thought to be the son of the mythical god Apollo.

I reminded you that neither Suetonius nor any other contemporary historian wrote a rumor, anecdote, mythical or historical episode about Jesus. He was not known outside the NT.

Again, easily debunked.

I was hoping you had some other refutations of substance, but those seemed to be all you could muster.
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:38 PM   #954
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That refutation was easily debunked....

Again, your refutation was easily debunked.

Again, easily debunked.
I attended a summer camp once when I was nine years old, and my bed was one of the top bunks. One night I rolled out of bed onto the floor.

You might say I was easily debunked.

Doug, do you sometimes roll out of bed?

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:47 PM   #955
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But if I never existed, than how can I have had a drivers license, a passport, a birth certificate, a social security number, or an affadavit from an attorney?
I need them to prove that you are not the son of a ghost.

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Furthermore, why are you requesting to see my docs but not requesting to see Jesus' DL, passport, birth cert, SSN, or affadavit from an attorney?
I have asked for information on Jesus many times, you know that. Those that respond do not give anything of substance, mostly unsubstantiated rumors or pre-conceived beliefs.

At this present time I have nothing at all on Jesus, except fiction of course. Even your view, that Jesus is a dead human cannot be verified by you.
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I need them to prove that you are not the son of a ghost.
But how can you do that if I don't exist?
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Ahem. If no one has anything new to say after 956 posts, perhaps we can close this thread as having run it's course? Just asking.
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I need them to prove you are not the son of a ghost.
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But how can you do that if I don't exist?
Well, I guess you and those who do not exist have the same problem.
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Ahem. If no one has anything new to say after 956 posts, perhaps we can close this thread as having run it's course? Just asking.
Please, please do.
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If there are any unanswered questions, you are free to start a new thread.

But stick a fork in this one, it's done.
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