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Old 09-02-2005, 04:34 AM   #1
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Default Help me keep my Ten Commandments article on Wikipedia

I often link my articles to wikipedia, and I have never had a problem with this, until I linked my Ten Commandments article. I see that on wikipedia all the Ten Commandment external links are to pro-religious sites.

My article: http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...mmandments.htm

People keep editing and removing my link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Com...External_links

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* [http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...mmandments.htm The Ten Commandments, American History and American Law]Including the views of the Founding Fathers
If you keep an eye on this and see that my link has been removed, please add it back. I've been monitoring it myself, but I can't always be there to fix it.

After a while people will probably stop, but you know how these religious nuts are.

Do not, I repeate, DO NOT, remove anyone else's links or mess anything up for other people.

Thanks for the help to anyone who can.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:53 AM   #2
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There's no point in formulating "non discriminating" request. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a forum. You have to prove your article's value within the topic instead of stubbornly link it just because you think you have the right to express your view. You may want to start a paragraph in the disscussion section about it, instead of arguing in comments. Make a persuasive case. Get more wikipedia users to support your case.
Remember that wikipedia can be modified by anyone and I assume common sense (the opinion of the many) must be followed. If you stubbornly add that link you may even create a counter-reaction.

Good luck in your enterprise!
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:06 AM   #3
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This is more appropriate for PA/SA
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Old 09-02-2005, 09:32 AM   #4
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I assume common sense (the opinion of the many)
Because something is the opinion of many does not mean it is sensible, not on Wikipedia, not in real life. I can't believe I have to remind a freethinker this. George Bush got elected by 5 Million more Americans, and 95% of people endorse a particular faith. It is quite possible those kind of numbers are starting to influence a website as big as Wikipedia.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:20 PM   #5
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There's no point in formulating "non discriminating" request. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a forum. You have to prove your article's value within the topic instead of stubbornly link it just because you think you have the right to express your view. You may want to start a paragraph in the disscussion section about it, instead of arguing in comments. Make a persuasive case. Get more wikipedia users to support your case.
Remember that wikipedia can be modified by anyone and I assume common sense (the opinion of the many) must be followed. If you stubbornly add that link you may even create a counter-reaction.

Good luck in your enterprise!
Umm.. I'm not sure how much experiance you have with wikipedia. Every topic has "external links". I'm using the external links exactly as they are both intended to be used and exactly how I want to use them.

The problem here is that my article is in opposition to the display of the 10C on public buildings so 10C advocates keep deleting it. That has nothing to do with your comments.
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Because something is the opinion of many does not mean it is sensible, not on Wikipedia, not in real life. I can't believe I have to remind a freethinker this.
Go edit a page regarding christian religion in Wikipedia and add there "There's no God". Tell me when you'll be able to make that permanent such as no one else to remove it.

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George Bush got elected by 5 Million more Americans, and 95% of people endorse a particular faith. It is quite possible those kind of numbers are starting to influence a website as big as Wikipedia.
I think also the changing distance from Neptune to Earth is starting to influence Wikipedia :Cheeky:

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Umm.. I'm not sure how much experiance you have with wikipedia.
Enough not to enter a stalemate like yours

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Every topic has "external links". I'm using the external links exactly as they are both intended to be used and exactly how I want to use them.
External links, as well the content of an article, has to be on topic, and of course, having some encyclopedic nature. You cannot add any link. As far as I am concerned some may not like your link because it focuses too much on American justice, an irrelevant topic for the article in question.

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The problem here is that my article is in opposition to the display of the 10C on public buildings so 10C advocates keep deleting it. That has nothing to do with your comments.
True. That's why I adviced you to enter article's discussion and to build a case. It's your freedom to disregard my comments and therefore I will cease my contribution to your thread. Good luck!
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:51 AM   #7
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I performed a small edit to your link. By citing it as another point of view on the 10Cs (there's already links to Christian and Jewish POVs), and referencing it as pertaining to a portion of the main article (as there's a part of the article called "Public monuments and controversy in the USA") I've hopefully better justified its inclusion in the External Links section.

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I'm nearly positive there's an article on wiki about the ten c contraversy. That makes the link superfluous.
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