Cesc

It is? The flood from the Gilgamesh/Atrahasis stories?

How do you figure?

Toto

Why do you keep repeating this bogus argument?

Is it that nobody wrote about him when he was alive because he was obscure, or because he was never actually alive?

The facts (what little we have) are consistent with both ideas - but it is clear that Romans did not deify a poor nobody. The "nobody" is the result of modern western post-Christians' attempt to make sense of the lack of evidence.

The Romans deified a miracle working Jewish sage with a mass following who defeated crucifixion by rising from the grave and sitting at the right hand of god. They didn't deify an obscure peasant.

outhouse

Nope

the attested flood of the Euphrates in 2900 BC is from the Sumerian epic of Ziusudra.







the Elijah and Elisha traditions

outhouse

its only considered bogus by a small small small percetage of mythers that for the most part are uneducated on these subjects, that spend most of their time falsely parroting misinformation from untrained internet bloggers.


the majority of historians follow it.


obscure.

the vast majority of Galilaeans were illiterate, and jesus movement failed in judaism, and there were many just like him also recorded.

Only the temple events seperated, this man from the rest

false


they factually wrote him as a tekton which in this time was a displaced renter handworker who lived a life below that of a peasant.

recorded as saying leave your beggar bowls to his closest followers, showing his fishernmen budddies were poverty stricken


give up all your possessions, as teaching and healing was better then most work that was over taxed


didnt have money to even pay a small insignificant tax, had to dend peter fishing for revenue


and on and on and on. Romans deified and worshipped him, calling him "son of god" like a living emporer, the romans were constantly trying to upstage jesus with other living men.


False


the jewish sage thing is a minority view


they deified and worshipped a poverty stricken Galilaean tekton, hated by Pilate

Toto

If you are going to continually insult others as "uneducated" may we have your educational credentials, please?

Could you at least address the argument instead of just asserting that you are right?

What evidence is there of this obscure peasant? None - that's why your alleged historians can claim he was the real Jesus. He can't be disproved. The hypothesis that there was a historical Jesus is not falsifiable. So it is really irrelevant.

outhouse

what is insulting? either your a scholar, or your not. You know those people called hsitorians.

and if you dont have their education, it is not a insult.


false

there is plenty, you just discount it.

Toto

Do you need a doctorate in theology to evaluate the evidence? I don't think so.

And I know an insult when I read one.


Then list some of it.

<crickets>

outhouse

first a Tekton
resident of Nazareth
then no job
fishermen buddies
no money to pay taxes

aa5874

What??

If the "Jewish sage" thing is a minority view then the "poverty stricken Galilean tektron"--the No Tax old man is far less argued.

Please name the educated Schoars who argue that Jesus the old man was a poverty stricken tektron that healed people for scraps of food.

By the way, Pilate found No fault with Jesus in the Myth Fables called Gospels.

outhouse

if your not trained as a scholar on many topics your in the dark

you dont come anywhere near placing the material into the proper context, or understanding the proper translations meanings lost in english, from greek.